# Question About T3 (spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 30, 2003, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-t3-spoilers/191858 "2003-07-30T06:15:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Charger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df788c/32.png) [@Charger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charger)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2003, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-t3-spoilers/191858/21 "2003-08-04T03:15:02Z")
The only Terminator that we know cannot self-terminate would have been Arnold in T2. In T3, he may have been reprogrammed to self-terminate if it would save John, or possibly terminate the T-X. Remember, that is the first case of a Terminator fighting against a machine designed to terminate other machines. One thing I caught was that the Terminator, while replying to John’s idiotic question about if he remember “hasta la vista, baby”, said “That was a different T-101.” In the first two films, he is a T-800, Cyberdyne Systems Model 101. Now he is just calling himself a T-101. Is that because Cyberdyne was destroyed? Shouldn’t 101 still be his model number, and T-800 be his series number? It just sounded wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Charger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df788c/32.png) [@Charger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charger)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2003, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-t3-spoilers/191858/22 "2003-08-04T03:20:22Z")
The other quetion I had was how many power cells does a Terminator have anyway? In T2, after getting stabbed through the back, he has reserve power that he connects to (which the T-1000 apparently didn’t know about). In T3, he still functions after removing two. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2003, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-t3-spoilers/191858/23 "2003-08-04T12:55:21Z")
2, I think. I’d imagine the half-second of operation he had after removing the second one was due to capacitors still being charged, or something like that. ---
**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-t3-spoilers/191858/24 "2004-08-31T01:48:52Z")
I apologize for the bump and a resurrected thread, but hey, we’re talking about resurrected movies here. . . > [@Charger](#): > > One thing I caught was that the Terminator, while replying to John’s idiotic question about if he remember “hasta la vista, baby”, said “That was a different T-101.” In the first two films, he is a T-800, Cyberdyne Systems Model 101. Now he is just calling himself a T-101. Is that because Cyberdyne was destroyed? Shouldn’t 101 still be his model number, and T-800 be his series number? It just sounded wrong. I caught this too. I thought the original T1-based Terminator was a T-800, as described in T2. I thought the producers did a _damn fine job_ in covering their tracks as far as canon storyline is concerned, but did I miss something? T-1000 was the molten Jason Patric Terminator. T-X is the Christianna Loken Terminatrix. The [T-101](http://www.eterminator.com/) doesn’t exist. . . . . . or is this some indication to tell us the thing can **lie** , like it did when telling John and Kathryn about Crystal Peak? Tripler Ooooh gaws, this is my favorite of all sci-fi storylines. ---
**Author:** ![Enola\_Straight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dec6dc/32.png) [@Enola\_Straight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Straight)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-t3-spoilers/191858/25 "2004-08-31T05:39:04Z")
T1 and T2 Arnold Terminators are Series-800 Model-101. T3 Arnold is an uprated/upgraded Series-850. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-t3-spoilers/191858/26 "2004-08-31T05:56:35Z")
> [@Enola Straight](#): > > T1 and T2 Arnold Terminators are Series-800 Model-101. > T3 Arnold is an uprated/upgraded Series-850. So why does the upgraded version look so much older and slower than the earlier model? 😕😃 ---
**Author:** ![Stark\_Raven\_Mad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Stark\_Raven\_Mad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stark_Raven_Mad)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-t3-spoilers/191858/27 "2004-08-31T06:56:58Z")
> [@Larry Borgia](#): > > So why does the upgraded version look so much older and slower than the earlier model? 😕😃 Hah. 😃 But really, the guy looked bloody amazing for 56 - hell, for any age. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-t3-spoilers/191858/28 "2004-08-31T08:26:45Z")
> [@Tripler](#): > > T-1000 was the molten Jason Patric Terminator. You may be thinking of the [T-109 Terminator](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0227615/). The T-1000 was (mostly) played by Robert Patrick. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-t3-spoilers/191858.md?page=1)