# Question about the current occupant's view of his role (deemed unsuitable for GQ)

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**Created:** [December 12, 2018, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-the-current-occupants-view-of-his-role-deemed-unsuitable-for-gq/826018 "2018-12-12T21:13:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-the-current-occupants-view-of-his-role-deemed-unsuitable-for-gq/826018/1 "2018-12-12T21:13:48Z")

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Hi, folks. Sorry for the delay in revisiting this.

Back in July of 2017, I submitted [this thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=831996) in GQ. GQ Moderator **Colibri** properly exercised his authority to immediately close it on account of it containing a political jab.

I have no intention of questioning his action, but I will confess to having my feelings hurt by it, to the point where I treated my hurt feelings as being more important to me than finding out the answer to the question. During the intervening seventeen months, my desire to have the question answered has gradually waxed to the point where I feel it is worth my time to resubmit it.

For the benefit of those who don’t wish to open links, here is the text of my original thread:

> [@](#):
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> **Did the President decline the mantle of “leader of the free world?”**
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> Lately, on the SDMB, I have seen numerous posts about the president’s public and quasi-public\* behavior and statements, many of which decry the behavior/statement as being less than what one should have a right to expect from “the leader of the free world.”
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> I was fortunate enough to be away from televised and most online media for a week beginning on Inauguration Day. However, I can’t shake the feeling that somewhere, I saw a reference to the “president,” somewhat early in his term, proclaiming that his assumption of the Presidency does NOT make him “Leader of the Free World,” or indeed, leader of any part of the world except the United States of America.
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> Did I just misinterpret a clickbait headline? Or did DJT\*\* ever actually make a statement that could be interpreted that way? I’ve been trying to find a reference to it online, but I don’t seem to be able to figure out the right search terms.
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> A little help? TIA.
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> \*Twits, or whatever the cool kids are calling them these days.
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> \*\*“DJT” refers to the America-hating Fuckstick Currently Befouling the Oval Office. I would have used the term directly, but I didn’t want people accusing me (wholly without reason, btw) of “poisoning the well.”
> 
> Anyway, TIA

I hope I’m not too late to still catch the attention of someone who can provide a fcatual answer.

Again, TIA.  
ETA: Sorry, **Colibri** ; I can’t see this doing much better in GD or IMHO, so I decided to take it directly to the Pit.

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**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-the-current-occupants-view-of-his-role-deemed-unsuitable-for-gq/826018/2 "2018-12-12T21:29:04Z")

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Even better than a factual answer, I can give you insight into his mind.

If “leader of the free world” is what he wanted the words “leader of the free world” to mean on a particular day, then he would accept the description.

If “leader of the free world” is not what he wanted the words “leader of the free world” to mean on a particular day, then he would not accept the description.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-the-current-occupants-view-of-his-role-deemed-unsuitable-for-gq/826018/3 "2018-12-12T22:52:28Z")

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Even if not explicitly stated, he has indeed clearly indicated that he is not the “leader of the free world”. He has characterized other free countries rather plainly as trade opponents. His non-committal attitude towards NATO has also been plainly stated. His admiring remarks of authoritarian regimes is also notable.

He thinks of himself as the leader of America, not the free world. He has made that abundantly clear.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-the-current-occupants-view-of-his-role-deemed-unsuitable-for-gq/826018/4 "2018-12-12T23:04:49Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> ETA: Sorry, **Colibri** ; I can’t see this doing much better in GD or IMHO, so I decided to take it directly to the Pit.

> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> \*\*“DJT” refers to the America-hating Fuckstick Currently Befouling the Oval Office. I would have used the term directly, but I didn’t want people accusing me (wholly without reason, btw) of “poisoning the well.”

For the record, it was the second quote that caused me to close it rather than move it. Otherwise I would have probably have moved it to Great Debates, and it probably would have done fine there. But if you want to use terms like that, then the Pit is really the only forum it could go in.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-the-current-occupants-view-of-his-role-deemed-unsuitable-for-gq/826018/5 "2018-12-13T01:21:40Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> For the record, it was the second quote that caused me to close it rather than move it. Otherwise I would have probably have moved it to Great Debates, and it probably would have done fine there. But if you want to use terms like that, then the Pit is really the only forum it could go in.

I HAVE to use that phrasing; so, yeah.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-the-current-occupants-view-of-his-role-deemed-unsuitable-for-gq/826018/6 "2018-12-13T01:23:55Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Even if not explicitly stated, he has indeed clearly indicated that he is not the “leader of the free world”. He has characterized other free countries rather plainly as trade opponents. His non-committal attitude towards NATO has also been plainly stated. His admiring remarks of authoritarian regimes is also notable.
> 
> He thinks of himself as the leader of America, not the free world. He has made that abundantly clear.

Yeah, that’s pretty clear. I thought I had seen reference to him saying it in so many words, though.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-the-current-occupants-view-of-his-role-deemed-unsuitable-for-gq/826018/7 "2018-12-13T02:04:35Z")

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You might be thinking of this, from April 2017:

> [@](#):
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> Donald Trump has told a group of American workers that he does not want to “president of the world.”

> **[Donald Trump doesn't want to be 'President of the world'](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-america-first-not-us-president-world-nato-ntabu-trade-unions-workers-infrastructure-a7668576.html)**
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> Mr Trump tells a trade union of builders that the age of US 'economic surrender' is over

ETA: if you Google that phrasing, it seems to be a common thing for him to say. Here’s an example from even earlier:

[https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/09/15/trump\_im\_not\_running\_to\_be\_president\_of\_the\_world\_im\_running\_to\_be\_president\_of\_the\_united\_states.html](https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/09/15/trump_im_not_running_to_be_president_of_the_world_im_running_to_be_president_of_the_united_states.html)
