# Question about The Dresden Files

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-the-dresden-files/491346>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 30, 2009, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-the-dresden-files/491346 "2009-03-30T20:22:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![BlinkingDuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@BlinkingDuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlinkingDuck)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-the-dresden-files/491346/41 "2009-05-06T16:27:38Z")

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It was because of the TV show that I discovered the books.

While I enjoyed the TV show (and it shouldn’t have been cancelled) the books are just so much better!

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-the-dresden-files/491346/42 "2009-05-06T16:33:10Z")

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> [@3trew](#):
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> My opinion can be discounted (as if enough evidence hasn’t been provided to do that earlier) because of my firm conviction that Wilfred Brimley would make a great Ebenezer McCoy.

😛

I’d go for the obvious and say Sam Elliott.

> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Refresh my memory: how do they describe Morgan in the books? Do they mention his race?

I believe so. In the first book, Morgan’s described as something of a Norseman: white with blonde hair, probably shoulder-length or more, with the air of a barely-restrained berserker about him. He’s a lot crazier in the books than in the show.

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**Author:** ![bobkitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@bobkitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobkitty)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-the-dresden-files/491346/43 "2009-05-06T17:44:33Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> In the first book, Morgan’s described as something of a Norseman: white with blonde hair, probably shoulder-length or more, with the air of a barely-restrained berserker about him. He’s a lot crazier in the books than in the show.

/nitpick- grey hair, long enough to be pulled into a ponytail. He’s been a warden for over a century, and considering the (prior to events in the later books) vetting process for wardens, let alone a field commander of Morgan’s status, he’s got to be getting on up there in years. And he’s definitely noted as being Germanic/Norse in origin, which made the choice of Conrad Coats rather.. odd.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-the-dresden-files/491346/44 "2009-05-06T20:18:51Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> IMDB lists Paul Blackthorne’s height as 6" 3 1/2’.

Well, Harry Dresden is “extraordinarily tall” at 6 foot nine inches; he’d loom over Blackthorne. Of course, the likely inability to find someone that tall who fits the part & can act is a practical consideration.

> [@bobkitty](#):
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> /nitpick- grey hair, long enough to be pulled into a ponytail.

\< Picks up _Storm Front_ \>

He has “listless brown hair going grey in uneven patches”, and grey eyes.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-the-dresden-files/491346/45 "2009-05-06T20:26:01Z")

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Go figure. I’ll need to read the series a few more times, clearly. 🙂

And yeah, I always got the impression of book Dresden being scarecrow tall and skinny. Blackthorne seems a little too…fleshed out compared to the book descriptions.

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-the-dresden-files/491346/46 "2009-05-06T22:55:00Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> How much taller do you want him? IMDB lists Paul Blackthorne’s height as 6" 3 1/2’. They changed his car from a Beetle to a Jeep because he couldn’t easily get in and out of it on camera.

I never would have guessed that - my recollection of the series was that he seemed 5’10" or so. Clearly I need to watch it again, and verify that the entire cast was not giants.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-the-dresden-files/491346/47 "2009-05-07T02:45:07Z")

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> [@BlinkingDuck](#):
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> It was because of the TV show that I discovered the books.
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> While I enjoyed the TV show (and it shouldn’t have been cancelled) the books are just so much better!

Same here and same here.

I thought Paul Blackthorne was a good fit for Dresden. Perfect? No. But good.

I just finished _Turn Coat_ last night.

People who like the books might like the Felix Castor books by Mike Carey, starting with _The Devil You Know_. Similar feel (though definitely grittier), though I prefer Butcher.

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-the-dresden-files/491346/48 "2009-05-11T02:21:26Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> How much taller do you want him? IMDB lists Paul Blackthorne’s height as 6" 3 1/2’. They changed his car from a Beetle to a Jeep because he couldn’t easily get in and out of it on camera.

I watched a couple of episodes over the weekend - yeah, he’s a tall guy. Cruz (Murphy) is listed as 5’ 8", and he has a full head over her. He must have a really big head - when I watch him without focusing on those around him, he still seems under 6’ to me.

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**Author:** ![bobkitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@bobkitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobkitty)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-the-dresden-files/491346/49 "2009-05-11T02:39:36Z")

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> [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](#):
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> He must have a really big head

That’s certainly how I picture things. 😉😃

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**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-the-dresden-files/491346/50 "2009-05-11T04:17:25Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Well, Harry Dresden is “extraordinarily tall” at 6 foot nine inches; he’d loom over Blackthorne. Of course, the likely inability to find someone that tall who fits the part & can act is a practical consideration.
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> \< Picks up _Storm Front_ \>

I think you’re thinking of [Big Bill Brasky](http://snltranscripts.jt.org/95/95kbrasky.phtml). 😃 I don’t remember Harry being \*\*that \*\*tall.

Is he really listed at 6-foot-9 in Stormfront? I’m not digging out the books, but I had in mind 6-foot-5 or so.  
Besides, Magician, Fiction, or not, 6-foot-5 in a VW beetle is already pushing my suspension of disbelief to the breaking point. :eek:

I tried a Google search, but my Google-Fu failed.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-the-dresden-files/491346/51 "2009-05-11T04:24:24Z")

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> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#):
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> I think you’re thinking of [Big Bill Brasky](http://snltranscripts.jt.org/95/95kbrasky.phtml). 😃 I don’t remember Harry being \*\*that \*\*tall.
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> Is he really listed at 6-foot-9 in Stormfront? I’m not digging out the books, but I had in mind 6-foot-5 or so.  
> Besides, Magician, Fiction, or not, 6-foot-5 in a VW beetle is already pushing my suspension of disbelief to the breaking point. :eek:
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> I tried a Google search, but my Google-Fu failed.

Actually, I used his character description in the back of the comic aka “graphic novel” _Welcome to the Jungle_. Butcher wrote it, and describes the characters as being portrayed just how he imagined them to be.

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