# Question about The Last Supper

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 27, 2020, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-the-last-supper/921643 "2020-09-27T04:00:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2020, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-the-last-supper/921643/1 "2020-09-27T04:00:16Z")

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It was a Passover Seder, right? So which disciple found the Afikoman? Who asked the 4 Questions?

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**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2020, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-the-last-supper/921643/2 "2020-09-27T04:50:28Z")

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And why were they drinking wine?

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**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2020, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-the-last-supper/921643/3 "2020-09-27T05:01:44Z")

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You drink 4 cups of wine at a seder.

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**Author:** ![Arkcon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Arkcon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arkcon)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2020, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-the-last-supper/921643/4 "2020-09-27T11:41:11Z")

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> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#):
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> It was a Passover Seder, right? So which disciple found the Afikoman? Who asked the 4 Questions?

I don’t know if the Afikoman was necessary, isn’t it a replacement for the Passover sacrifice? When, exactly, was temple sacrifices stopped? Sometime post BCE, correct?

Traditionally, Phillip, sometimes called Phillip the Younger, was the youngest apostle, and so hand to ask the 4 questions, addressed to the rabbi of the group – Jesus. I always found that strange, I always thought that John, the Beloved Apostle, was the youngest. I figured traditionally, as the supposed author of the 4th gospel, he’d live the latest and so would be the youngest. But the whole thing gets murky rapidly, unless you’re more than a passing bible scholar.

Tradition also holds that Jesus didn’t answer the 4 Questions appropriately, but instead changed the answers to initiate Christian catechism. That’s gotta be rough on Phillip … maybe a few months younger than John, saddled with the obligation to be the “kid” at the table, and then Jesus goes off script on top of it all.

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**Author:** ![Arkcon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Arkcon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arkcon)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2020, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-the-last-supper/921643/5 "2020-09-27T11:52:25Z")

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According to Wikipedia, it was definitely a Passover meal, and not a Seder. The Seder having been developed post-Temple destruction, as a remembrance of the time of the Temple.

> **[Last Supper | Passover parallels](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Supper#Passover_parallels)**
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> Since the late 20th century, with growing consciousness of the Jewish character of the early church and the improvement of Jewish-Christian relations, it became common among some lay people to associate the Last Supper with the Passover Seder.\[citation needed\] Some evangelical groups borrowed Seder customs, like Haggadahs, and incorporated them in new rituals meant to mimic the Last Supper;\[citation needed\] likewise, many secularized Jews presume that the event was a Seder. This identification is...

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**Author:** ![Bootb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@Bootb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootb)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2020, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-the-last-supper/921643/6 "2020-09-27T23:07:59Z")

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> [@Arkcon](#):
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> Traditionally, Phillip, sometimes called Phillip the Younger, was the youngest apostle, and so hand to ask the 4 questions, addressed to the rabbi of the group

I grew up in church, and I’ve done some study on my own regarding various religious issues. I have never heard of this so-called “tradition.” To the extent that anybody knows or can offer an educated guess, it’s pretty much universally assumed that John was the youngest, based on various indications in the Bible–mainly (but not entirely) due to the fact that he wrote Revelation somewhere around AD 95-100.
