# Question about the Star Trek "Mirror Universe"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-the-star-trek-mirror-universe/164442>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 27, 2003, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-the-star-trek-mirror-universe/164442 "2003-03-27T03:04:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2003, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-the-star-trek-mirror-universe/164442/21 "2003-03-28T16:41:09Z")

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> _Originally posted by NoCoolUserName_  
> **We are all just characters in someone else’s entertainment**

Man! Is _that_ guy ever a loser!

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2003, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-the-star-trek-mirror-universe/164442/22 "2003-03-28T16:44:37Z")

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> \*Originally posted by NoCoolUserName \*  
> It’s only ego (Universist bigotry?) that makes us refer to ourselves as the “primary” universe. We are all just characters in someone else’s entertainment.

Truth be told, the events in _Star Trek_ couldn’t exist in our universe, primary or otherwise. Well, unless there was a Eugenics War in 1992 that didn’t make the papers.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2003, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-the-star-trek-mirror-universe/164442/23 "2003-03-28T17:50:44Z")

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> Since both the logic and the pacifism came from the same historical event, I wonder what happened? In my foggy, mostly-senile brain it seems I recall that a hero/philosopher (whose name we learned but I forget) led the movement for logic and peace because the Vulcans almost destroyed themselves in a war. Yes? No?

It was Surak and so far as I can remember without checking my Star Trek encyclopedia or [startrek.com](http://startrek.com), you’re right.

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**Author:** ![FordPrefect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@FordPrefect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordPrefect)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2003, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-the-star-trek-mirror-universe/164442/24 "2003-03-28T22:37:52Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ethilrist \*  
> \*\*Hey, now. They had the evil Kira wearing leather and gettin’ it on with Jadzia. That’s worth lots.
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> Now that I think about it, most of my fond memories of Star Trek babes was when they wore leather: Kira, B’elanna, Kes, Keylar… \*\*

This is close to what I was going to say. The oppo-verse had the good guys as bad, the bad guys as good (sometimes) and all the hot women were dressed in skimpy clothes or tight leather and hornier than heck. Barring the constant fear of death, it sounds like we are in the wrong universe…

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