# question about women in clubs and bars

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [October 15, 2001, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-women-in-clubs-and-bars/87549 "2001-10-15T19:50:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2001, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-women-in-clubs-and-bars/87549/41 "2001-10-16T19:17:05Z")

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Never been to Truman’s, eh MSK? I had a few friends (straight) that would frequent Trumans just because it’s supposed to be a great danceclub.

What bar are you going to? The reason I ask is because many of your questions just depend. There are plenty of bars in SB where you can either sit and watch sports, sit and watch girls dance with each other, or both. For instance:

BW3’s: Sports only  
Heartland: girls only  
Coach’s: Both  
Linebacker: Both  
Cheers: Both  
Corby’s: Sports or girls (depends on what room you’re in)  
Club 23: neither - just drinking

If you’re just watching the girls, you’re being creepy. If you’re watching sports/TV, and occassionally look at the girls, you’re being completely normal.[sup]\*[/sup]

[sub][sup]\*[/sup]This is not an indication or mandate that everyone should strive to be normal at all times. This is just a very general and over-reaching generalization of bar behavior I have noticed in a small selection of bars in a small Indiana town.

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**Author:** ![Badtz\_Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e36b37/32.png) [@Badtz\_Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Badtz_Maru)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2001, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-women-in-clubs-and-bars/87549/42 "2001-10-17T04:05:40Z")

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[QUOTE]  
\*Originally posted by MagicalSilverKey \*  
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> \*Originally posted by eirroc \*  
> If you have no-one to go with, your shy, and you don’t drink, why on earth do you go to clubs?

[li]I refuse to sit at home all weekend feeling bored.[/li][li]Despite how horribly shy I am, I hope to meet people, and work on my social skills, even it’s simply through observation.[/li][li]I don’t have anything else to do, or anywhere else to go, especially on a weekend. \*\*[/li][/QUOTE]

There are other things to do besides go to bars, which would probably be more fun for a shy non-drinker. Do you have a local community college? See if they have any classes you would be interested in. They probably do, and in many of these classes you will be forced to meet people because you will have to work with them on projects.

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**Author:** ![MagicalSilverKey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@MagicalSilverKey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MagicalSilverKey)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2001, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-women-in-clubs-and-bars/87549/43 "2001-10-17T04:41:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Munch \*  
> \*\*Never been to Truman’s, eh MSK? I had a few friends (straight) that would frequent Trumans just because it’s supposed to be a great danceclub.
> 
> What bar are you going to? The reason I ask is because many of your questions just depend. There are plenty of bars in SB where you can either sit and watch sports, sit and watch girls dance with each other, or both. For instance:
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> BW3’s: Sports only  
> Heartland: girls only  
> Coach’s: Both  
> Linebacker: Both  
> Cheers: Both  
> Corby’s: Sports or girls (depends on what room you’re in)  
> Club 23: neither - just drinking
> 
> If you’re just watching the girls, you’re being creepy. If you’re watching sports/TV, and occassionally look at the girls, you’re being completely normal.[sup]\*[/sup]
> 
> [sub][sup]\*[/sup]This is not an indication or mandate that everyone should strive to be normal at all times. This is just a very general and over-reaching generalization of bar behavior I have noticed in a small selection of bars in a small Indiana town. \*\*

My “usual” hangout is Moondog’s Pub on Ironwood at Ireland. I also frequent TGIFridays Bar on Grape Road. At least there, I can drink coffee or soda, and play the online trivia game thing, and not seem creepy. Karaoke night at TGIF is always interesting. Most of the bartenders recognize me and always know to get me a soda. TGIF is probably where I am most comfortable. Plus there’s no dancing there… unless you count when the bartender chicks go borderline “Coyote Ugly” on occasion. Now that is fun to watch. 😃 Ask me about the whipped cream trick they do. hehehe

The State Theater totally sucks. I will never go there again.

I don’t mind Heartland, but there are mostly very young college age girls there, who aren’t looking for 31 year old men.

Club Landing is another I dont mind going to, but often it’s quite expensive. Club Landing seems to have more of my age range of ladies than the other places do.

FTR: I have never been to BW3, Coaches, Club 23, Corbys, or Linebacker. I have been to Cheers once or twice, but thats a scary metalhead bar…rough crowd in there.

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**Author:** ![MagicalSilverKey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@MagicalSilverKey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MagicalSilverKey)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2001, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-women-in-clubs-and-bars/87549/44 "2001-10-17T05:09:31Z")

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> _Originally posted by Badtz Maru_  
> There are other things to do besides go to bars, which would probably be more fun for a shy non-drinker. Do you have a local community college? See if they have any classes you would be interested in. They probably do, and in many of these classes you will be forced to meet people because you will have to work with them on projects.

“other things” I do to get out of the house:  
[li]I go to the movies, especially at the 2nd run, one dollar theaters.[/li][li]I love browsing in Barnes & Noble. I could live in that place. There’s always something interesting to read or view in there.[/li][li]I walk my dog at the park, a lot, but that’s coming to an abrupt end with the onset of fall and the recent unfavorable weather. :([/li][li]I go to church. I also was in a church singles group, for a while, but that fell through. I will have to see what other such groups are around, locally.[/li]  
That’s about all, at this point in time.

FTR: There a bazillion colleges here. Your suggestion is not a bad one, and not one that I haven’t considered, myself, from time to time. I have no idea what is offered, as such, though. I guess it’s worth investigating.

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**Author:** ![dunne\_u.wurrie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@dunne\_u.wurrie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dunne_u.wurrie)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2001, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-women-in-clubs-and-bars/87549/45 "2001-10-17T05:39:22Z")

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SilverKey----

Stay out of the clubs. They are the worst place in the world to meet people, especially if you are shy.

Get out in the daytime. Take lots of classes, join lots of clubs. Discussion groups are good.

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**Author:** ![heresiarch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@heresiarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/heresiarch)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2001, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-women-in-clubs-and-bars/87549/46 "2001-10-17T06:09:31Z")

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I went to our church singles’ group, but it was a little off-putting, 'cause all the women were dirty-dancing with each other.

Then I remembered, I’m a Unitarian-Universalist. 😛

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**Author:** ![eirroc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f1d935/32.png) [@eirroc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eirroc)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2001, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-women-in-clubs-and-bars/87549/47 "2001-10-17T09:02:12Z")

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> _originally posted by MSK_  
> “other things” I do to get out of the house:
> 
> I go to the movies, especially at the 2nd run, one dollar theaters.
> 
> I love browsing in Barnes & Noble. I could live in that place. There’s always something interesting to read or view in there.
> 
> I walk my dog at the park, a lot, but that’s coming to an abrupt end with the onset of fall and the recent unfavorable weather.
> 
> I go to church. I also was in a church singles group, for a while, but that fell through. I will have to see what other such groups are around, locally.
> 
> That’s about all, at this point in time.
> 
> FTR: There a bazillion colleges here. Your suggestion is not a bad one, and not one that I haven’t considered, myself, from time to time. I have no idea what is offered, as such, though. I guess it’s worth investigating.

**MSK** if you are doing all these things and still haven’t met any friends, your doing the wrong things. What has already been said regarding college hobbies ect, is the way to go. Don’t try so hard, find a hobby you like and join a class where you will have things in common with people, make friends and socialise with them. A 31 yr old should have some friends by now, so IMO your going about things the wrong way. I agree, clubs are not places to go and meet people, they are for people who already have friends and aren’t looking to make any. And if your going to clubs to meet girls, on your own, well that comes across as very odd.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2001, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-women-in-clubs-and-bars/87549/48 "2001-10-17T12:14:29Z")

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Well, I go to the men’s locker room at the local gym, and sit on a bench. I don’t work out. I don’t swim. I don’t take off my clothes. I just like to sit and watch.

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**Author:** ![Qis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Qis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qis)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2001, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-women-in-clubs-and-bars/87549/49 "2001-10-17T12:34:37Z")

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In my oppinion girls seem far happier to go out prely for fun than to pull.  
Guys go out on the pull and cant seem to imagine that girls go out to have fun.  
Girls like dancing. And they can dance.  
Guys cant dance (mostly (me included)) regardless of how much they like it.  
So girls dance with girls because its fun. Safe. Adn they aint dancing with some guy who has no clue.  
i think i lost the plot a bit.  
hmm.  
girls dance with girld because they like dancing, and other girls can dance, and they like to.  
a guy cant offer that co-ordination thing.  
and guys are just plain desperate.  
i really have lost it.  
i aint even gona read what i just wrote, cos it didnt make any sense.  
sorry guys.

Oh yea, adn girls are much niceerto look at than guys mid-dance.

-Qis

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**Author:** ![Qis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Qis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qis)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2001, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-women-in-clubs-and-bars/87549/50 "2001-10-17T12:38:32Z")

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I’m still li’lle.please excuse me

-Qis

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**Author:** ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2001, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-women-in-clubs-and-bars/87549/51 "2001-10-17T14:18:46Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Qis \*  
> **In my oppinion girls seem far happier to go out prely for fun than to pull.**

What in the wide wide world of sports is that supposed to mean?

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**Author:** ![MagicalSilverKey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@MagicalSilverKey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MagicalSilverKey)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2001, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-women-in-clubs-and-bars/87549/52 "2001-10-17T16:41:05Z")

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> _Originally posted by Munch_  
> What bar are you going to? The reason I ask is because many of your questions just depend. There are plenty of bars in SB where you can either sit and watch sports, sit and watch girls dance with each other, or both.

Obviously, Munch, you are from my area. How about we meet up sometime for a java or a brew? If we’re cool with one another, maybe you could be my “wing-man” for when I do want to go out bar hopping. 🙂 It is really rough going to bars alone, and a bit strange, as others have mentioned. I hardly ever see anyone enter a bar / club alone.

FTR: I used to have a “wing-man,” along with a female friend. All three of us used to go out and have some fun at the clubs or bars. We were good friends, and our outings lasted for close to a year. Unfortunately, the guy moved away to go to vocational college in Fort Wayne, and also to live with his girlfriend. The girl took on a job, locally, that takes absolutely all of her time. She works in a medical lab. Incidentally, I met them in the very bar that I hang out in most, Moondogs Pub.

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**Author:** ![Kayeby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de0a6/32.png) [@Kayeby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kayeby)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2001, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-women-in-clubs-and-bars/87549/53 "2001-10-18T00:41:08Z")

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> \*Originally posted by xizor \*  
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> > [@](#):
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> > \*Originally posted by Qis \*  
> > **In my oppinion girls seem far happier to go out prely for fun than to pull.**
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> What in the wide wide world of sports is that supposed to mean? \*\*

**xizor** , I think it means that IHO girls go out to dance and have fun, whereas guys prefer to go out and pick up girls.

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