# Question behind Clinton's "definition of is, is"

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**Post date:** [May 1, 2004, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-behind-clintons-definition-of-is-is/243000/1 "2004-05-01T16:03:47Z")

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Question behind Clinton’s “definition of is, is”

You always here in brought up… However, what was the original question that made this exchange possible?

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**Post date:** [May 1, 2004, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-behind-clintons-definition-of-is-is/243000/2 "2004-05-01T17:53:48Z")

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> Q Mr. President, I want to, before I go into a new subject area, briefly go over something you were talking about with Mr. Bittman.
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> The statement of your attorney, Mr. Bennett, at the Paula Jones deposition, “Counsel is fully aware” – it’s page 54, line 5 – "Counsel is fully aware that Ms. Lewinsky has filed, has an affidavit which they are in possession of saying that there is absolutely no sex of any kind in any manner, shape or form, with President Clinton…
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> That statement is made by your attorney in front of Judge Susan Webber Wright, correct?
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> A That’s correct.
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> Q That statement is a completely false statement. Whether or not Mr. Bennett knew of your relationship with Ms. Lewinsky, the statement that there was “no sex of any kind in any manner, shape or form, with President Clinton,” was an utterly false statement. Is that correct?
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> A It depends on what the meaning of the word “is” is. If the –if he – if “is” means is and never has been, that is not— that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement.

The complete transcript is [here](http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/transcr.htm).

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2004, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-behind-clintons-definition-of-is-is/243000/3 "2004-05-02T15:20:24Z")

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Yeah, this is going to get into IMHO or GD territory, and leave it to me to be the first to steer it that direction.

But, for all the ridicule of Clinton’s “definition of ‘is’” debate, I must say that it is not an unreasonable response, given the question that prompted it.

That part of the question—“saying that there is absolutely no sex of any kind”—is pretty ambiguous. That’s not a common or natural phrasing. “There is no sex?” To me, that implies the present tense, and is tantamount to saying “I’m am not having sex with her at this moment, on the witness stand.” That’s (probably) very true.

Perhaps the question should have been phrased more clearly…as in “there had been no sex.” But, the way it was stated _is_ pretty confusing, and it only makes sense to ask whether it meant “currently” or “ever.” I know I’d be thinking the same thing.

Taken out of context, the “is” question sounds terrible, and makes Clinton look like a jackass. If more people understood the context, it wouldn’t be nearly as funny.

_Note: I’m not defending Clinton. I just think he could make himself look like a jackass just fine without the help of out-of-context quotation._

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**Author:** ![mrblue92](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@mrblue92](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrblue92)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2004, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-behind-clintons-definition-of-is-is/243000/4 "2004-05-02T15:53:46Z")

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> [@audilover](#):
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> That part of the question—“saying that there is absolutely no sex of any kind”—is pretty ambiguous. That’s not a common or natural phrasing. “There is no sex?” To me, that implies the present tense, and is tantamount to saying “I’m am not having sex with her at this moment, on the witness stand.” That’s (probably) very true.

Hmm… I think that sort of phrasing is a bit too literal. Instead, I would take the meaning of question to be, “Are you in a sexual relationship with her?” If the case was that they were no longer in such a relationship, then he would have been telling the truth. If they were still, currently, then as far as I’m concerned it would be a lie. It’s basically that the two questions–“Is she your lover?” or “Was she your lover?”–are very different.

From the context of the remark in question, it seems like Clinton was being sarcastic, though I don’t recall the tone of his voice indicating as such. _shrugs_

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2004, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-behind-clintons-definition-of-is-is/243000/5 "2004-05-02T16:17:17Z")

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> [@mrblue92](#):
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> Hmm… I think that sort of phrasing is a bit too literal. Instead, I would take the meaning of question to be, “Are you in a sexual relationship with her?” If the case was that they were no longer in such a relationship, then he would have been telling the truth. If they were still, currently, then as far as I’m concerned it would be a lie. It’s basically that the two questions–“Is she your lover?” or “Was she your lover?”–are very different.
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> From the context of the remark in question, it seems like Clinton was being sarcastic, though I don’t recall the tone of his voice indicating as such. _shrugs_

As similar thing happened with Geniffer  
Flowers. She claimed to have an affair with Clinton, but he denied it. I think he rightly denied the “affair”, but he probably couldn’t deny the sex part.

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2004, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-behind-clintons-definition-of-is-is/243000/6 "2004-05-02T17:34:25Z")

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> [@](#):
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> From the context of the remark in question, it seems like Clinton was being sarcastic, though I don’t recall the tone of his voice indicating as such. _shrugs_

Perhaps he had a legitimate point, but the way he phrased it was itself confusing. At the time, it looked like he was trying to obfuscate.

Given what’s happened in the last few years, this whole controversy now looks so quaint.
