# Question for anti gun people? home defense?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [February 13, 2019, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-anti-gun-people-home-defense/829475 "2019-02-13T17:00:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![Littleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ccd318/32.png) [@Littleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Littleman)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-anti-gun-people-home-defense/829475/347 "2019-02-25T12:27:25Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> I’m a slow learner. I clicked another **Littleman** cite. It won’t happen again.
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> I got suspicious when he mentioned the #3 state in gun ownership. Why not #1? Or the #35 in suicides. Wouldn’t #49 and #50 prove his point better? Can you spell [_cherry-pick_](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e7/En-au-cherry-pick.ogg)?
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> Using **Littleman** ’s own cite the top 15 states for suicides are
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> 1. Montana — 26
> 2. Alaska — 25.4
> 3. Wyoming — 25.2
> 4. New Mexico — 22.5
> 5. Utah — 21.8
> 6. Nevada — 21.4
> 7. Idaho — 21.3
> 8. Oklahoma — 20.9
> 9. Colorado — 20.5
> 10. South Dakota — 20.5
> 11. West Virginia — 19.5
> 12. North Dakota — 19
> 13. Missouri — 18.3
> 14. Arkansas — 18.2
> 15. Kansas — 17.9  
> No point in checking these states for gun ownership! With few exceptions these are gun-loving Trump-voting states every one.  
> If we say D.C. is not a state, the bottom ten are
> 16. Hawaii — 12
> 17. Delaware — 11.5
> 18. Rhode Island — 11.1
> 19. Illinois — 10.7
> 20. California — 10.5
> 21. Connecticut — 10
> 22. Maryland — 9.3
> 23. Massachusetts — 8.7
> 24. New York — 8.1
> 25. New Jersey — 7.2  
> Mostly Democratic gun-grabbing states!
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> @ **Littleman** — I wouldn’t bother hunting for “cites” in future. Expect them to be ignored.

Hey look at that, no consistent correlation to suicides, just as I said

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