# Question for Czarcasm **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [July 17, 2007, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-czarcasm/412181 "2007-07-17T20:16:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2007, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-czarcasm/412181/1 "2007-07-17T20:16:46Z")
**Czarcasm** , you moved [post=8787243]The Diet Coke Phenomena[/post] from IMHO to Cafe Society. I can only assume this is because cooking is a recognized Cafe Society topic. How a thread about diet coke is related to cooking I can only guess. At the same time, two other threads remain on the IMHO front page: [Why baseball now sucks!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=429007) [MLB: How’s your team doing? How about vs. what you expected?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=428888) Sports, like cooking, is a recognized Cafe Society topic. Rants against MLB and discussion of how MLB teams are doing are clearly sports topics; you don’t even need to squint to see the connection, unlike the diet coke thread. So why move the Diet Coke thread but not the sports threads? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2007, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-czarcasm/412181/2 "2007-07-17T23:12:45Z")
1. I just got home from work and haven’t had a chance to do any moderating yet. 2. I’m not perfect. 3. When I go out to a cafe, the only thing besides water I can drink is usually diet Coke. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2007, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-czarcasm/412181/3 "2007-07-17T23:23:58Z")
[QUOTE=Czarcasm] 1. I’m not perfect. [/QUOTE] [sub]Psst. pg.8 in the mod handbook. _Never_ admit you aren’t perfect. It only encourages them. [/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2007, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-czarcasm/412181/4 "2007-07-17T23:27:53Z")
[QUOTE=samclem] [sub]Psst. pg.8 in the mod handbook. _Never_ admit you aren’t perfect. It only encourages them. [/sub] [/QUOTE] [sub]Have you never heard of false modesty?[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2007, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-czarcasm/412181/5 "2007-07-17T23:45:42Z")
Actually, it’s a damn refreshing thing to hear. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2007, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-czarcasm/412181/6 "2007-07-18T00:17:29Z")
[QUOTE=Czarcasm] 2. I’m not perfect. [/QUOTE] Works for me. Thanks for the reply. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2007, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-czarcasm/412181/7 "2007-07-18T00:20:23Z")
[QUOTE=Ellis Dee] Sports, like cooking, is a recognized Cafe Society topic. [/QUOTE] This is open for debate. There’s no one set place as appropriate for sports as Cafe Society is for food and drink. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2007, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-czarcasm/412181/8 "2007-07-18T01:53:10Z")
[QUOTE=Frank] This is open for debate. There’s no one set place as appropriate for sports as Cafe Society is for food and drink. [/QUOTE] I’m perfectly happy to debate this with the mods and administrators. Sports are entertainment, much moreso than diet coke. There’s [post=6956920]this[/post]: (emphasis mine) > [@C K Dexter Haven](#): > > I’m willing to accept that, broadly speaking, sports threads belong in Cafe Society, if the topic is related to entertainment/leisure. A few months ago, **we did modify the description of Cafe Society forum to include leisure activities, to cover exactly stuff like cooking and sports.** Unfortunately, Dex then goes on to say: > [@](#): > > However, I issue the same caveat that TubaDiva had a few posts earlier, and echoing Skip: > – “In Cecil’s column about the different ways to get to first base, he forgot rule 17(b)(iii)…” goes in Comments on Cecil’s Columns > > - “That \*#@ umpire's \*#@ stupidity lost the game for my team!” is flaming, and belongs in the Pit. > - “I saw Michael Jordan at the laundromat!” belongs in MPSIMS > - “Which sports figure would you most like to have in bed?” belongs in IMHO. > - “Should city governments subsidize professional sports so heavily?” belongs in Great Debates, it’s a political discussion even if it’s peripherally about sports. > - “How many runs did Babe Ruth hit in 1937?” is a factual question that goes in either GQ or Cafe Society. GQ would be preferred, since this is a factual question and not a discussion. > > We take the same attitude, BTW, with regard to Shakespear or movies: the type of discussion often dictates the forum. This is disingenuous at best. Tell if any of the following threads would go in any forum other than CS: “Why do people drink diet coke at the end of a plane trip?” “Who won the first season of survivor?” “Which actor/actress would you most like to have in bed?” You can’t possibly tell me that any of these threads would last even a full day before being moved to the Cafe. Sports threads are about entertainment, and as such should be afforded the same courtesy that all other entertainment threads are given. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2007, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-czarcasm/412181/9 "2007-07-18T02:08:38Z")
There’s also [post=6434619]this[/post]: (emphasis mine) > [@C K Dexter Haven](#): > > Sports is something of an issue, since the Moderators fight each other over it. (“It goes in Cafe Soceity, I sure as hell don’t want it and I’m moving it!” “No way, it goes in General Questions, I’m moving it back!” “Damn, OK, maybe I can move it to MPSIMS and they won’t notice.” “Get it the hell out of here, I’ll move it to GD.” and so forth.) > > […repeat of “but factual sports qestions go in GQ,” etc…] > > **And, I reluctantly admit, sports as entertainment goes in Cafe Society** (“I hear they’re starting an All-Wresting Channel…”) ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2007, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-czarcasm/412181/10 "2007-07-18T02:33:48Z")
[QUOTE=Ellis Dee] “Why do people drink diet coke at the end of a plane trip?” “Who won the first season of survivor?” “Which actor/actress would you most like to have in bed?” You can’t possibly tell me that any of these threads would last even a full day before being moved to the Cafe. Sports threads are about entertainment, and as such should be afforded the same courtesy that all other entertainment threads are given. [/QUOTE] Actually, they just might. Just my opinion of course. Might depend on which side of the bed a mod woke up on. ---
**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2007, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-czarcasm/412181/11 "2007-07-18T12:24:39Z")
I think it’s pretty well established that questions about sports-as-entertainment go in Cafe Society, at least for the present. Similary, food questions in general go in Cafe Society. I said (as quoted above in more detail): “the type of discussion often dictates the forum.” That’s our general guideline. Cafe Society is the **only** forum (so far) where content/topic is the determining factor rather than the type of discussion. This invariably creates some grey areas. So, while content related to arts, entertainment, food, sports &c tends to point to Cafe Society, it’s “not always.” There obvious clear distinctions are threads about Cecil’s Column or a Staff Report which would go in CoCC or CoSR, even if the topic were sports or food (or Hollywood or theatre or…) Why does a moderator move some threads and not others? Sometimes they just haven’t come to her/his attention. Generally, moderators don’t read or look at every thread (especially when time-pressed), but rely on members to REPORT a thread that’s in the wrong forum. Sometimes it’s a deliberate decision (e.g., “This thread really belongs in MPSIMS even though it mentions baseball.”) ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2007, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-czarcasm/412181/12 "2007-07-18T21:12:57Z")
Asked and answered.