# Question for FriendofGod

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [August 10, 2000, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-friendofgod/28795 "2000-08-10T04:14:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Threll](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c37758/32.png) [@Threll](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Threll)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2000, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-friendofgod/28795/21 "2000-08-11T02:36:38Z")

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I have played D&D since 7th grade. I think that the game is harmless everyone I know who play the game are very good people and are quite moral. Let me hit on some of the finer points here.

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> Those are two of zillions of examples. So anyway, you can see where I’m going with this. God uses music and fiction, so _SURE_ Satan wants to use it too! He’ll use whatever means he can to get his point across. Think about it logically … if _you_ were Satan, wouldn’t _you_ use every tool at your disposal?
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> You asked if I believed fictional stories and games are a source of real supernatural evil? Certainly they can be! _AND_ certainly they can be a source of real supernatural _good_ as well! For example, I know personally of one person who came to Christ as a direct result of reading the Left Behind fiction series, and there are millions more like her around the world. Likewise, I know a guy who got deeply into the occult as a direct result of getting involved in Dungeons and Dragons when they were younger. _Thankfully_ they aren’t in it today.

This is something that I have always wondered about. I think you are trying to say here that god and Satan are always writing books and making games to win us over to there side. As it was discussed in the “what would it take to prove gods existence” to you thread all god would have to do is give out some tangible evidence like appearing at my door step and saying hi. So why dose he keep writing books and music, Besides I thought that D&D was made up by Gary Gygax. 🙂

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> On that note, I’d just like to let everyone know that the D&D 3rd Edition Player’s Handbook was released today, so all of you spiritually corrupt people can rejoice!

Oh yay more rules. I guess this means that I will have to buy more books and spend more money.

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> – God today is speaking supernaturally through prophets throughout the world to encourage people toward God and speak words of comfort — and there are Psychic Hot Lines that are advertised as ways to get the true dirt on people you know.

How do you tell the difference between prophets ant those who are out to make some money?

I have always thought that it is a good idea to get the real facts because some sources may be biased so I would like to offer these links to any one to read about D&D.  
[http://www.cale.com/paper.htm](http://www.cale.com/paper.htm)  
and

> **[Urban Legends Store](https://shop.urbanlegends.com)**
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> Shop exclusive music from the Official Urban Legends Store.

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**Author:** ![ricksummon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ricksummon/32/3333_2.png) [@ricksummon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ricksummon)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2000, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-friendofgod/28795/22 "2000-08-11T02:57:42Z")

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Almost forgot this link from a conservative Christian who is pro-D&D:

[Confessions of a Dungeons and Dragons Addict](http://members.aol.com/MarkJYoung/confess.html)

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**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2000, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-friendofgod/28795/23 "2000-08-11T03:04:20Z")

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**tracer** wrote:

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> \*So, xenophon41, how many hit points _did_ your highest-level character have? 😉 \*

Not enough, dammit. Should I have stuck with it? :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Shylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Shylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shylock)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2000, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-friendofgod/28795/24 "2000-08-11T03:31:48Z")

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> \*Originally posted by xenophon41 \*  
> \*\*Not enough, dammit. Should I have stuck with it? :rolleyes: \*\*

well, had you, no doubt you’d be the intellectual equivalent of a baked potato 😃

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**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2000, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-friendofgod/28795/25 "2000-08-11T14:41:53Z")

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Well, okay, guys, maybe none of the SDMB atheists has actually gotten up on a soapbox, waved a flag, and shouted, “Hey, everybody, here’s the Truth over here!” But you have to admit that in some of the Christianity vs. atheism threads, some of the atheists do seem a little, shall we say, “strident”? “Pushy”? “Awfully seriously convinced that they are RIGHT and those poor deluded Christians are WRONG?” It’s my observation that none of the GD threads get more just plain anger in them than the God vs. not-God debates, and the anger isn’t always on the side of the God people.

And my post to Mars Horizon was mainly, as I said, to make sure this didn’t turn into just another Fundie-bashing thread.

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2000, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-friendofgod/28795/26 "2000-08-11T15:13:08Z")

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> Well, okay, guys, maybe none of the SDMB atheists has actually gotten up on a soapbox, waved a flag, and shouted, “Hey, everybody, here’s the Truth over here!” But you have to admit that in some of the Christianity vs. atheism threads, some of the atheists do seem a little, shall we say, “strident”? “Pushy”? “Awfully seriously convinced that they are RIGHT and those poor deluded Christians are WRONG?”

I think the criticism goes more to the Fundamentalist line of argument in any discussion, which is, “God said it, I believe it, and that settles it.”

If atheists are pushy, well, I have never had a band of atheists knock on my door and preach to me. I have never had an atheist try to drag me to an atheists meeting.

There are strong, fervent Christians like Triskadecamus and Polycarp who will get a respectful hearing in a debate becuae they are well-mannered, respectful, and forceful without being confrontational. They also write intelligent and logical posts. A great many of the Fundies employ poor reasoning or appeals to authority, which makes their arguments look really specious.

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