# question for manhattan

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-manhattan/82359>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [September 18, 2001, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-manhattan/82359 "2001-09-18T11:56:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2001, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-manhattan/82359/21 "2001-09-18T22:51:34Z")

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Why ShibbOleth my dear, I never knew you cared.

Jenny  
your humble TubaDiva  
Oh my.

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-manhattan/82359/22 "2001-09-19T02:39:27Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by spark applied to powder \*  
> Not my idea of a godess. More like an imp.

Still waiting for a bang . . .

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-manhattan/82359/23 "2001-09-19T03:04:59Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by TubaDiva \*  
> \*\*Why ShibbOleth my dear, I never knew you cared.
> 
> Jenny  
> your humble TubaDiva  
> Oh my. \*\*

Tuba players can have groupies too, can’t they?  
[sub]I think it’s the name, it’s just so paradoxical.[/sub]

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**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-manhattan/82359/24 "2001-09-19T06:06:23Z")

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Actually it’s quite true to life. . . don’t run away, now!

your humble TubaDiva  
shattering all illusions

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**Author:** ![daffodil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@daffodil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/daffodil)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-manhattan/82359/25 "2001-09-19T09:26:44Z")

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Sjeesh… You guys are really strict and serious, right?

Let me play along on those lines :Tuba diver; I haven’t heard an apology from you.

A bunch of daffydils and a backrub will do.

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-manhattan/82359/26 "2001-09-19T10:17:20Z")

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Call our Diva a diver, and a back rub most likely shall _not_ be had. 🙂

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-manhattan/82359/27 "2001-09-19T12:43:17Z")

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> \*Originally posted by TubaDiva \*  
> See, I can be as confused as anyone. 🙂
> 
> **My apologies, boy, is my face red!**
> 
> No harm, no foul, move along, nothing else to see here.
> 
> your humble TubaDiva  
> Administrator  
> “Fools rush in.”

**Daffy** , as you can see the divine Miss Diva has already posted an apology, it’s the first thing she did.

Also, since you are in the land of Coldfire, you should know that a _diva_ is a primadona, or literally, a goddess. Its also often associated with singers here, and in this lovely case a tuba virtuosa. A _diver_, however is one who dives or stays under water for a long time. Unless you are actually from Brooklyn or the Deep South in which case this may actually be an acceptable form of pronounciation for the word _diva_.

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**Author:** ![spark\_applied\_to\_powder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@spark\_applied\_to\_powder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spark_applied_to_powder)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-manhattan/82359/28 "2001-09-19T16:57:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by UncleBeer \*  
> \*\ ***Moderator’s Notes:**** Spark**, as I’m very sure you know, editorial comments on moderator/administrator actions go in the Pit. Knock it off. Now.
> 
> > [@](#):
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> > She screws up three ways:  
> > She listens to troll hunters. That’s always a mistake. And doesn’t tell them to go to email.  
> > She doesn’t check out the accusation in any way.  
> > She demands an answer on the the thread!.
> 
> These are confrontational and as such, inappropriate for this forum.
> 
> Consider this a formal warning. You may not get another. \*\*

Wow, another warning in a thread. I’ve got a email, and you know it. Yet you DON’T know who will return to a thread. Excuse me if I find that less than logical.

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-manhattan/82359/29 "2001-09-19T17:16:16Z")

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I sent you e-mail in addition to this warning. It was kicked back with a “no transport provided” error message. I dunno what the problem was.

However, there are other, and very logical reasons, for posting warnings to threads. It publicizes to the members what we consider bad behavior. It also makes public, in a tangential manner, our reasons for banning a particular poster. Darwin knows there are plenty of people around to accuse us of acting imperiously.

So applying a small bit of reason shows two, and maybe three, logical reasons for making public warnings.

Fair enough?

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**Author:** ![spark\_applied\_to\_powder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@spark\_applied\_to\_powder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spark_applied_to_powder)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-manhattan/82359/30 "2001-09-19T18:21:38Z")

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I stand corrected. My sincerest apologies!

(P.s. My mail does work, and I just checked it with a “forgot your password” email from the board’s profile robot. I sent you a forward to reassure you on that point.  
So I guess it was just a glitch. Maybe The Bon-Ton had a Manhattan server that was affected last week?)

And I apologize to TubaDiva as well. Sorry I jumped on you.

> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by iampunha \*  
> \*\*Still waiting for a bang . . . \*\*

Don’t hold your breath. I only average a post a week. Might be a while before I say something to upset you again.  
(But I don’t feel bad that you can’t recall all of my many classic lines. You seem to have posted a lot and I can’t recall even seeing your name before. I guess it’s not very memorable because it’s unpronouncable.)

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**Author:** ![daffodil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@daffodil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/daffodil)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-manhattan/82359/31 "2001-09-19T21:35:40Z")

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Tuba Diva; I appologize for calling you diver.

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**Author:** ![daffodil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@daffodil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/daffodil)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-manhattan/82359/32 "2001-09-19T21:39:07Z")

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Tuba Diva; I appologize for calling you diver.

Must be my Dutch accent. 🙂

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2001, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-manhattan/82359/33 "2001-09-20T03:27:19Z")

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That’s funny. Dan Quayle never had a problem with Jenny’s name. 😉

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2001, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-manhattan/82359/34 "2001-09-20T13:47:41Z")

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I think he spelled it **TubaDivae,** though.

Isn’t that Latin for an entire _choir_ of haughty lady tuba players?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2001, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-manhattan/82359/35 "2001-09-20T20:48:26Z")

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Quoth **ShibbOleth** :

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> I have a very alluring picture in my mind’s eye of how TubaDiva looks, all curled up and seductive like, her brass nicely polished, her lower lip quivering and damp from the mouthpiece.

Us tubists do, indeed, get our lips wet, but we have excellent control of them, and they do not quiver. In fact, they’re unusually firm and full.

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> Tuba players can have groupies too, can’t they?

Howcome nobody ever told me that? 😃

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**Author:** ![screech-owl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@screech-owl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/screech-owl)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2001, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-manhattan/82359/36 "2001-09-20T23:37:38Z")

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**Chronos** - YOU play tuba?!  
Dang. Dinna know that.

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**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2001, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-manhattan/82359/37 "2001-09-21T00:15:11Z")

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All the truly special people do.

your humble TubaDiva  
Take my word for it!

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2001, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-manhattan/82359/38 "2001-09-21T02:47:18Z")

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Yeah, but not with WET LIPS.

Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww…gross! No wonder **Chronos** gets that weird buzzing tone of his in the upper registers.

– Uke, who admits to moistening his saxophone reeds, but would NEVER approach a brass instrument with a soggy embouchre

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**Author:** ![ToobaTeacher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/77aa72/32.png) [@ToobaTeacher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToobaTeacher)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2001, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-manhattan/82359/39 "2001-09-21T15:50:03Z")

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The tooba is often misunderstood, even by composers.  
One re-orchestrated famous parts of Swan Lake to feature tooba arias. This sounds nice on paper, but the wind needed would have killed an Indian elephant. Perhaps even an African elephant. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2001, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-manhattan/82359/40 "2001-09-21T17:59:29Z")

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Don’t we Double Bass players get some kudos too?

No walking to rehearsal.  
No getting tiny cars, although I could fit mine in my brother’s Ford Mustang hatchback.  
A lot harder to play for pennies at the airport/bus station, etc.  
The same boring parts in most operetta type music.  
And remember kids, bass players do it standing up.

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