# question for people who love BBQ

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-people-who-love-bbq/539003>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 11, 2010, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-people-who-love-bbq/539003 "2010-05-11T03:20:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Philster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/13edae/32.png) [@Philster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Philster)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-people-who-love-bbq/539003/21 "2010-05-13T15:36:26Z")

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And if you are gonna cook 'em some steaks, they best not be ruined by cooking them past medium.

:eek:  
Couldn’t resist.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-people-who-love-bbq/539003/22 "2010-05-13T15:49:41Z")

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> [@Philster](#):
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> And if you are gonna cook 'em some steaks, they best not be ruined by cooking them past medium.
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> :eek:  
> Couldn’t resist.

And certainly, there won’t be a bottle of ketchup anywhere near the place, right?

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-people-who-love-bbq/539003/23 "2010-05-13T16:16:54Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> It’s not a “fallacy” - it’s a regional colloquialism that can be confusing to a great many people, and is the subject of a hijack in 100% of threads that begin with the use of “BBQ” to mean something other than “smoking meats over a long period of time over low heat”.

One key distinction is whether ‘barbecue’ is preceded by ‘a’, as in “we’re having **a** barbecue at our place Saturday; want to come?” which really just means you’re doing outdoor cooking of some sort.

But without the indefinite article, as in “we’re having barbecue at our place Saturday; want to come?”, the speaker is identifying what’s being served, rather than what sort of shindig it is. And not just anything that can be tossed on a grill is barbecue (or barbeque, or BBQ).

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-people-who-love-bbq/539003/24 "2010-05-13T16:35:06Z")

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One day there will be a jihad against those who blaspheme in the name of BBQ.

But we have to sort out the various heresies first. Like beef vs pork, and whether chicken is a venial or a mortal sin, or just a different translation of Scripture. Is mesquite revealed truth, or commentary? Is baptism in sauce a sacrament, or just hiding bad cooking?

We need a Council of Nicea on BBQ.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-people-who-love-bbq/539003/25 "2010-05-13T17:07:15Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> We need a Council of Nicea on BBQ.

Ribcea.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-people-who-love-bbq/539003/26 "2010-05-13T17:42:22Z")

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The Council of Ribcea needs to be held on neutral ground as well. I suggest Anchorage, Alaska. Memphis, Kansas City, Lockhart and Lexington, NC are all out for obvious reasons.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-people-who-love-bbq/539003/27 "2010-05-13T17:45:27Z")

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I’d suggest Minnesota, but we’re screwed if we run out of spices and need to go to the store.

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**Author:** ![Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superfluous_Parentheses)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-people-who-love-bbq/539003/28 "2010-05-13T19:31:08Z")

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Shrimp marinated in lime juice, pepper, cilantro and red onion. Skewer and put on the BBQ for a few minutes. Lovely.

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**Author:** ![lilgriller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/41988e/32.png) [@lilgriller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilgriller)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-people-who-love-bbq/539003/29 "2010-05-14T01:12:16Z")

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ribcea… lol i love it!

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**Author:** ![JerseyFrank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bcef8e/32.png) [@JerseyFrank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JerseyFrank)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-people-who-love-bbq/539003/30 "2010-05-14T02:53:26Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> The Council of Ribcea needs to be held on neutral ground as well. I suggest Anchorage, Alaska. Memphis, Kansas City, Lockhart and Lexington, NC are all out for obvious reasons.

May I suggest T **ribeca** , NY?

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**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-people-who-love-bbq/539003/31 "2010-05-14T03:18:35Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> One day there will be a jihad against those who blaspheme in the name of BBQ.
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> But we have to sort out the various heresies first. Like beef vs pork, and whether chicken is a venial or a mortal sin, or just a different translation of Scripture. Is mesquite revealed truth, or commentary? Is baptism in sauce a sacrament, or just hiding bad cooking?
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> We need a Council of Nicea on BBQ.

Shit… what the OP describes is a cookout or “grilling”, not BBQ. Even those heretics in North Carolina and other such heathen places where they not only smoke pig, but they also use some weird mustard based sauce, understand that BBQ is about slow smoking, not grilling.

Come to think of it, a Council of Ribcea of BBQ wouldn’t be a terrible idea; Minnesota would work, actually. Penzeys Spices is there, I believe, or maybe in nearby Wisconsin.

On the grilling/cookout front, I’m a big fan of the usual hot dogs (Hebrew National, of course), hamburgers (80/20 ground chuck with a touch of nuoc mam) and bratwurst. Marinated and grilled squash and zucchini are a decent side.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-people-who-love-bbq/539003/32 "2010-05-14T03:46:00Z")

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Excuse me. The mustard heresy is a South Carolina aberration. North Carolina is home to the single greatest pork BBQ restaurant in the world: [Lexington BBQ](http://www.hollyeats.com/Lexington.htm).

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-people-who-love-bbq/539003/33 "2010-05-14T04:29:35Z")

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> [@Gary\_T](#):
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> Pork tenderloin. Cooks easily on a grill, probably just as good in a smoker, and provides a nice break from the same-old same-old.

I want your tips. PT is usually cheap at Sam’s, but it is so lean that I keep drying it out. (I have access to a nice gas grill (rotisserie optional), a Weber charcoal kettle, and a charcoal water smoker if you have something worth the trouble.)

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-people-who-love-bbq/539003/34 "2010-05-14T12:19:38Z")

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> [@bump](#):
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> Shit… what the OP describes is a cookout or “grilling”, not BBQ. Even those heretics in North Carolina and other such heathen places where they not only smoke pig, but they also use some weird mustard based sauce, understand that BBQ is about slow smoking, not grilling.

Oh it’s _on_ now.

BTW, the mustard heresy is confined to the lesser Carolina, as an object lesson.

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**Author:** ![NoLAFIN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e9bcb4/32.png) [@NoLAFIN](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NoLAFIN)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-people-who-love-bbq/539003/35 "2010-05-14T13:35:41Z")

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> [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](#):
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> I want your tips. PT is usually cheap at Sam’s, but it is so lean that I keep drying it out. (I have access to a nice gas grill (rotisserie optional), a Weber charcoal kettle, and a charcoal water smoker if you have something worth the trouble.)

Brine that sucker for about 4-8 hrs. Pat dry and rub with vegetable oil. Grill. Enjoy!

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**Author:** ![HoboStew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f17d59/32.png) [@HoboStew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoboStew)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-people-who-love-bbq/539003/36 "2010-05-14T17:45:57Z")

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This might clear up some confusion on the subject: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ubTQfr\_tyY](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ubTQfr_tyY)

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-people-who-love-bbq/539003/37 "2010-05-15T05:40:29Z")

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> [@NoLAFIN](#):
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> Brine that sucker for about 4-8 hrs. Pat dry and rub with vegetable oil. Grill. Enjoy!

High or low heat? Over heat or off? Cooking time? How much time between turns?

> [@HoboStew](#):
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> This might clear up some confusion on the subject: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ubTQfr\_tyY](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ubTQfr_tyY)

[clap, clap, clap]

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2010, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-people-who-love-bbq/539003/38 "2010-05-16T02:10:13Z")

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> [@HoboStew](#):
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> This might clear up some confusion on the subject: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ubTQfr\_tyY](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ubTQfr_tyY)

Yup. Even though it leaves out my BBQ region of choice, I highly approve of this video. And Alabama - WTF? I always knew there was something seriously off about that state.

(I loved that they used an outline of California when they were busy making fun of Florida.)

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**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2010, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-people-who-love-bbq/539003/39 "2010-05-16T02:43:17Z")

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> [@Superfluous\_Parentheses](#):
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> Shrimp marinated in lime juice, pepper, cilantro and red onion. Skewer and put on the BBQ for a few minutes. Lovely.

Grilled shrimp, when properly marinated, are in my top five favorite foods of all time…  
I like a marinade of fresh pressed garlic, lemon juice, a few shots of a good Louisiana hot sauce (not Tabasco though, something milder) and worcestershire sauce, and a dash of cumin—Marinate for an hour or so, and then grill over a medium hot flame.

Absolutely sublime!!!

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2010, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-people-who-love-bbq/539003/40 "2010-05-16T04:54:00Z")

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> [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](#):
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> Grilled shrimp, when properly marinated, are in my top five favorite foods of all time…

Even though I’m a hard line NC Q man, I"d have to agree.

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