# Question for the guys only

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-the-guys-only/529661>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [February 19, 2010, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-the-guys-only/529661 "2010-02-19T18:39:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-the-guys-only/529661/21 "2010-02-19T19:34:07Z")

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Not only do guys have different opinions but they change over time.

When I was in my teens and twentys young and rail thin was what attracted me.

Now - not so much.

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-the-guys-only/529661/22 "2010-02-19T19:36:15Z")

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A few extra pounds distributed as curves will definitely get more of my attention over someone who is very thin.

So, in this case, it’s quite possibly a net improvement. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/848f3c/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_Dunlop)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-the-guys-only/529661/23 "2010-02-19T19:59:46Z")

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> [@Kamrusepas](#):
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> Funnily enough, my own preferred type is blonde, slightly chubby and ideally wearing glasses. I love nerds tbh 😃 (Oh and to clarify, I never said I haven’t been finding male companions lately. My last encounter was on New Year’s [haven’t been out on a weekend since] when I found a cute, younger and a somewhat skinny dude who was happy to take me home xD).
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> I’m not asking because I’m looking for serious husband material right at the moment (I’m 23 so in no rush), but simply as a curiosity of everyday life.
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> Oh and thank you for all your answers, I’m glad to learn of your opinions 🙂

oh I see. You said you have never had trouble and I read it as you’ve had trouble since gaining the weight. Glad to hear you’re not having any problems

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**Author:** ![Hodiggity1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/da6949/32.png) [@Hodiggity1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hodiggity1)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-the-guys-only/529661/24 "2010-02-19T20:12:10Z")

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I agree with what Raindog said.

Another thing I wonder is whether your attitude (I don’t mean that in a bad way) is still the same. If you were thinner before and guys flocked to you, maybe you developed a bit of aloofness so you didn’t get overwhelmed. After gaining a little weight, the same attitude would not be appropriate with the given amount of attention now - i.e., it becomes more important to show a bit of personality (not that you didn’t have personality before, there was just no need to display it as prominently)

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-the-guys-only/529661/25 "2010-02-19T20:28:21Z")

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> [@Hypnagogic\_Jerk](#):
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> This thread screams for a cite. 😉

No, it screams for a jpeg.

I can only speak for myself, but I don’t have any problem at all with a female body that’s got a bit extra in the way of cushion.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-the-guys-only/529661/26 "2010-02-19T20:31:10Z")

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I like my women more Rubenesque, so a few pounds is a plus for me.

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**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-the-guys-only/529661/27 "2010-02-19T20:35:09Z")

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As long as your weight is comfortable for you, then anyone who can’t accept it shouldn’t be given the opportunity to be in your company.  
Beauty is skin deep, but ugly goes to the bone.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-the-guys-only/529661/28 "2010-02-19T21:55:11Z")

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> [@Kamrusepas](#):
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> Something I’ve been wondering about in the male psyche. When a woman has a pretty face and hair, but is packing a few extra pounds, do the guys automatically ignore her?
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> Thing is, I am quite pretty if I say so myself and have never had the trouble of finding male company, but in the last two years I’ve gained some weight. Just curious for personal reasons 🙂

I am going to be my usual asshole self and butt in. If you mean random strangers, how will they know you’ve gained weight? Maybe you used to be obese and just lost a ton! As a few guys mentioned, if you’ve noticed any change chances are it has to do with your confidence.

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**Author:** ![kelly5078](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/6f9a4e/32.png) [@kelly5078](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kelly5078)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-the-guys-only/529661/29 "2010-02-19T22:14:59Z")

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I’ll be a total jerk and say, from a sexual standpoint, I do ignore women who pack extra pounds. Very slightly pudgy might be okay if she’s quite pretty, but it’s a hurdle. There are a million things people can’t help, but most of the time weight isn’t one of them.

However, this is not an across the board opinion among men I’m acquainted with; it might even be a minority opinion, for all I know.

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**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-the-guys-only/529661/30 "2010-02-20T00:25:42Z")

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I definitely appreciate _zaftig_ women (up to a certain point, of course…but my taste probably accommodates heavier women than the average male’s.)

It varies with individuals, but there’s a certain point somewhere between “fat” and “average” that can be _pulse-stoppingly_ attractive, and, if coupled with the right demeanor, downright dangerous to my composure.

This is even _more_ pronounced in the case of younger women with smooth skin.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-the-guys-only/529661/31 "2010-02-20T01:57:54Z")

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Though I’m not attracted to women, I think this still applies . . .

I’m generally attracted to guys who are extremely thin. But once in a while I’ll find myself responding to a guy who’s definitely not thin, but has other qualities I like. There’s one guy I know who’d be described as “portly,” yet he has the most incredible face, I just love being around him.

And yes, there are also guys who have my preferred body type, but due to other qualities, totally turn me off.

So at least with me, it’s the whole package that matters, but specific qualities might tip the scales one way or the other.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-the-guys-only/529661/32 "2010-02-20T02:22:03Z")

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> [@Kamrusepas](#):
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> Something I’ve been wondering about in the male psyche. When a woman has a pretty face and hair, but is packing a few extra pounds, do the guys automatically ignore her?
> 
> Thing is, I am quite pretty if I say so myself and have never had the trouble of finding male company, but in the last two years I’ve gained some weight. Just curious for personal reasons 🙂

Depends on what you mean by “a few”, a cute face is obviously helpful but not enough to trump being overweight.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-the-guys-only/529661/33 "2010-02-20T04:21:57Z")

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> [@raindog](#):
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> Whats that in American sizes?

I’m only butting in long enough to answer raindog’s question: E40-42 is US10-12. If you scroll down to [USA Women’s Size Standards](http://www.usatourist.com/english/tips/Womens-Sizes.html), you can even get measurements in inches.

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-the-guys-only/529661/34 "2010-02-20T05:38:42Z")

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Since I have no concept of Women’s sizes from any country so I had to Google it. IF the pictures are right size 10 isn’t “big” at all, though I imagine height factors into it, it doesn’t seem really even seem to be far in the “pudgy” territory (I actually wouldn’t even consider it “pudgy” at all, but I’m covering myself in case the pictures are off).

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**Author:** ![Rambler88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9de053/32.png) [@Rambler88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rambler88)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-the-guys-only/529661/35 "2010-02-20T05:58:59Z")

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I would guess that an itch for variety is a noteworthy factor, perhaps more or less cancelling out any real or presumed preference. I lived for some years with a very slim girl. I never got tired of her build, but when my eyes wandered, I noticed that I paid extra attention to girls with a few extra pounds. In general, given a pretty face and hair, and generally harmonious shape, I’d say a few extra pounds means little.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-the-guys-only/529661/36 "2010-02-20T10:57:32Z")

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According to this [size chart](http://www.fashion-411.com/Size_Conversions.htm), she’s either a 6 or 8 in American sizes. And she used to be a size 2. That’s a big difference, but I’d consider it a net improvement.

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**Author:** ![EvilTOJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee59a6/32.png) [@EvilTOJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilTOJ)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-the-guys-only/529661/37 "2010-02-20T13:28:02Z")

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> [@elfkin477](#):
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> I’m only butting in long enough to answer raindog’s question: E40-42 is US10-12. If you scroll down to [USA Women’s Size Standards](http://www.usatourist.com/english/tips/Womens-Sizes.html), you can even get measurements in inches.

Size 12? Seriously?

\*checks to see if \*\*Kamrusepas \*_has a location listed_

Damn, no luck. So how YOU doin’?

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-the-guys-only/529661/38 "2010-02-20T13:34:38Z")

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Here’s the RBS. (Rat bastard standard):

The boobs have to stick out further than the stomach.

Can’t weigh more than the guy.

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**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-the-guys-only/529661/39 "2010-02-20T13:46:26Z")

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There’s usually something attractive about most ppl if you look for it. Nice smile, kind eyes, etc. One of my ex’s was 250 lbs, but she had a great voice and pretty eyes. I’m lucky in that I don’t have many physical requirements for a perspective GF/sexual partner. Female, and not so fat that it physically interferes with intercourse about covers it. I suppose horrible burns and/or post industrial-accident would be a turn-off, but that’s not something I’ve ever faced. Still, I feel that getting close to someone, physically or emotionally, is a risk equal to the possible reward, so SOME standards are necessary.

If you go out with just anyone, you can make your life quite a bit more difficult, or make theirs more difficult. Who needs that? There are no guarantees, but I try to minimize the risk. I look for some intelligence and emotional maturity, intellectual curiosity, no addictions, not already in a relationship - just the sort of basic “would I like to hang around with this person” stuff I’d apply to anyone in my life. Well, OK, the relationship one is specific to romantic intentions and not applicable to everyone. Hopefully, with those basic things covered, you can get to know the person and see if there’s that undefinable “chemistry”, without dipping your toes too far into the crazy pool. I’m single and in my mid-40’s. I haven’t slept around much and sometimes regret that in retrospect, but to be fair, the relationships I HAVE had have been long-term and mostly lacked in serious melodrama. There’s a great deal to be said for that.

I guess, to sum up for the OP, looks aren’t that important. Some reasonable expectation of compatibility and mental stability is. As many ppl can attest, letting the wrong person into your life can be worse than being alone.

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**Author:** ![gravitycrash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@gravitycrash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gravitycrash)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-the-guys-only/529661/40 "2010-02-20T13:59:08Z")

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I don’t ignore her but the first thing that comes to mind for me is: Damn, she is really pretty but she would look a whole lot better if she lost some weight.  
I’m a shallow bastard though, so just ignore me. 😉

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