# Question for you Dangerosa **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 27, 2017, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-you-dangerosa/780990 "2017-02-27T22:49:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-you-dangerosa/780990/161 "2017-03-03T00:52:59Z")
> [@Green\_Bean](#): > > Just because you don’t see a pattern doesn’t mean it’s not there. …we are on the straight fucking dope. Fighting ignorance since 1973. If you can show me a pattern I’m happy to agree a pattern exists. But you’ve shown me a thread from 2014. That isn’t a fucking pattern. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-you-dangerosa/780990/162 "2017-03-03T00:54:39Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …you haven’t shown a pattern of comments. If it existed you could point to some examples. I simply don’t believe you. That’s fine, as I in no way am trying to convince you. > [@](#): > > I’ve asked several other people to show me this pattern in this thread and they can’t show anything either. You started this pit thread. Don’t give me the excuse that you can’t show a fucking pattern because its too fucking hard. You started this pile-on. Take ownership of it. I am owning the question I asked Dangerosa, haven’t done anything but that. > [@](#): > > This was the comment that prompted Green Bean’s question in the other thread: > > Why the fuck would this comment prompt Green Bean to ask about Dangerosa’s son? Because of the pattern of behavior she’s exhibited, exactly what we’re trying to say. I mean why do you THINK we’d ask her about this? What motivation do we have for making it all up? > [@](#): > > It wasn’t fawning praise of her daughter. It wasn’t a condemnation of her son. This doesn’t fit your pattern of “sharing his troubles many many times” that you claim in the OP. She only commented on it when she was asked about it. > > You aren’t asking Dangerosa a question. You’ve pitted her. She isn’t going to respond to you here. There isn’t enough nuance in the world to be able to respond properly to incredibly personal questions in an environment like the pit. I actually DID ask her a question, and I put it in the pit, where we were told to put it. If she doesn’t want to respond, she doesn’t have to. I just want her to think about it, and it’s very easy to dismiss a PM as just being one person who has an axe to grind, or is reading things wrong, or is just a crackpot. Harder to dismiss when you see that multiple people have seen the same pattern. > [@](#): > > If you really cared you would have ignored the moderators suggestions to open a pit thread and taken it to PM’s instead. But I don’t think you actually care at all. That’s fine, you can think whatever you’d like. ---
**Author:** ![Calatin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/439d5e/32.png) [@Calatin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calatin)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-you-dangerosa/780990/163 "2017-03-03T01:01:41Z")
> [@Sarahfeena](#): > > I just want her to think about it, and it’s very easy to dismiss a PM as just being one person who has an axe to grind, or is reading things wrong, or is just a crackpot. Harder to dismiss when you see that multiple people have seen the same pattern. > > That’s fine, you can think whatever you’d like. Just want to add my voice to the whole “ **Dangerosa** ’s comments about each of her kids are kinda troubling” crowd. I’ve noticed it for a while, but (like you) I haven’t kept a log of each instance, as much as just it’s just left a lasting impression. **Sarahfeena** , don’t let a few people think that you’re a lone wolf in this (although I think the thread has already shown you that you are not). ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-you-dangerosa/780990/164 "2017-03-03T01:06:33Z")
I’d like to quote IvoryTowerDenizen from earlier in the thread: > [@](#): > > \*\*The language she uses to describe her daughter’s successes, failures, and tribulations is consistently empowering, positive, and validating. > > The language she uses to describe her son’s successes, failures, and tribulations is consistently minimizing, negative, and invalidating.\*\* > > Her language pulls her daughter into the fold of the family while is leaves her son on the outside. Yes, children should be allowed to be different and that should be recognized. But when the differences are not supported and validated to the degree the similarities are, then we have a problem. I have never seen her celebrate her son’s athletic or gaming successes to the degree she celebrates her daughters liberalism. When her daughter flouts authority she is celebrated but when her son gets in trouble he is put down for it. Yes, not every example is equal, but I’ve yet to see a post where she is unequivocally in his corner while it is obvious she delights in who her daughter is. The part that is bolded is the best way this can be described. It’s a pattern of behavior on this message board over a number of years. There isn’t one post that can be pointed at, any one of them would likely sound innocuous on it’s own. They must be taken in aggregate in order to establish a pattern…much more than what could reasonably be quoted here. But my point in reposting this is to ask you, do you think **IvoryTowerDenizen** would make the above up? Why would she do that? Doesn’t it seem awfully specific to be something that she just pulled out of the clear blue sky? ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-you-dangerosa/780990/165 "2017-03-03T01:08:55Z")
> [@Calatin](#): > > Just want to add my voice to the whole “ **Dangerosa** ’s comments about each of her kids are kinda troubling” crowd. I’ve noticed it for a while, but (like you) I haven’t kept a log of each instance, as much as just it’s just left a lasting impression. > > **Sarahfeena** , don’t let a few people think that you’re a lone wolf in this (although I think the thread has already shown you that you are not). Thanks **Calatin**. It doesn’t really bother me if people aren’t convinced, I only want to assure everyone I have no ulterior motive nor do I have any kind of a grudge against Dangerosa for any reason. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-you-dangerosa/780990/166 "2017-03-03T01:21:27Z")
> [@Sarahfeena](#): > > Because of the pattern of behavior she’s exhibited, exactly what we’re trying to say. I mean why do you THINK we’d ask her about this? What motivation do we have for making it all up? …what pattern of behaviour? If this pattern exists: then prove it. I don’t believe you. I believe you believe a pattern of behaviour exists: I don’t have a fucking clue why you believe it exists, because it doesn’t appear to be based on Dangerosa’s posts. But you can prove the pattern does exist quite simply by showing us all this pattern. I’m not asking you anything extraordinarily hard here. This is your pit thread. At least give it a bit of effort. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-you-dangerosa/780990/167 "2017-03-03T01:23:46Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …what pattern of behaviour? > > If this pattern exists: then prove it. I don’t believe you. I believe you believe a pattern of behaviour exists: I don’t have a fucking clue why you believe it exists, because it doesn’t appear to be based on Dangerosa’s posts. But you can prove the pattern does exist quite simply by showing us all this pattern. > > I’m not asking you anything extraordinarily hard here. This is your pit thread. At least give it a bit of effort. Well as I said I’m not trying to convince you. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-you-dangerosa/780990/168 "2017-03-03T01:27:16Z")
> [@Sarahfeena](#): > > Well as I said I’m not trying to convince you. …I’m not the only one in this thread who doesn’t believe you. You can keep believing a fantasy if you like. It would take you all of half an hour to find evidence of this behaviour if it actually existed. But no one has chosen to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Calatin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/439d5e/32.png) [@Calatin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calatin)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-you-dangerosa/780990/169 "2017-03-03T01:32:12Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …I’m not the only one in this thread who doesn’t believe you. You can keep believing a fantasy if you like. It would take you all of half an hour to find evidence of this behaviour if it actually existed. But no one has chosen to do so. But the majority do. That’s like saying the Earth isn’t round because not everyone believes it is. Do you really think there’s some big conspiracy to paint \*\*Dangerosa \*\*as a bad mom, or do you think that maybe you just haven’t read the same threads as the majority of posters in this thread? ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-you-dangerosa/780990/170 "2017-03-03T01:33:10Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …I’m not the only one in this thread who doesn’t believe you. You can keep believing a fantasy if you like. It would take you all of half an hour to find evidence of this behaviour if it actually existed. But no one has chosen to do so. Yes, and I’m not the only one who sees the pattern, so again, whatever. What you don’t get is that even if I could document everything, that would just be adding to the pile on that you claim I’m trying to cause. Dangerosa is the only one who I would like to take what I have said and think about it…and if I haven’t convinced the rest of the world, then that’s better for her, right? You are probably right that she’s not going to respond and really she doesn’t have to. I just want her to consider what some of us have said. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-you-dangerosa/780990/171 "2017-03-03T01:59:30Z")
**Banquet Bear** - aside from what the others said above, you’re clearly committed to dismissing anything anybody might present. There would be no point in putting together a group of quotes. ---
**Author:** ![Azeotrope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/0ea827/32.png) [@Azeotrope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azeotrope)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-you-dangerosa/780990/172 "2017-03-03T02:56:40Z")
The example of the double standard that sticks out most in my mind is from [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=725622&highlight=dress+code+daughter) regarding dress codes. Post 24 > [@](#): > > We just went through this with my daughters school. After my husband (since I had the last round with the school over a free speech issue), wrote a note to the administration talking about women having control over their own bodies and their dress not being responsible for the behavior of boys - we were told that the reason the dress code is in place was for “respect” (we rolled our eyes - the girls are put in their gym clothes when they don’t dress properly - there is nothing respectful about gym clothes - and the boys are wearing slouching shorts and tshirts with sayings that are the current equivalent of “I’m with stupid”), and that - and this is the best part “however we choose to dress our daughter will be fine.” > > She wore her non-fingertip length shorts and spaghetti straps to school for the rest of the school year. Graduated from middle school and I have a feeling her principal was not unhappy to see my troublesome daughter go. (She’s troublesome in the civic disobedience way - oh, and when her social studies teacher said he didn’t believe in global warming, she took him to task. Got in trouble for that one, too - that wasn’t the free speech issue, which was the National Day of Silence protest). > > (My daughter is a 14 year old very intelligent headstrong lesbian feminist raised in a UU church where protest and civil disobedience are taught in Sunday School. Next year I get to make good friends with the high school principal.) So when her “very intelligent headstrong lesbian feminist” daughter defies authority by walking around in booty shorts and camisoles she’s Fighting The Power and Sticking It To The Man. Post 33, same thread > [@](#): > > The two big parts of the dress code that impact boys - > > Pants (and shorts) should not sag. > > Hats are not to be worn indoors. > > Neither is enforced at my daughter’s school (how well I know, I have a hat wearing, sagging son, and I would have liked the school to give me some support on that - in the administrations words “they have bigger disciplinary problems to deal with”) - however, the girls dress code is. So when her son breaks the dress code, [which according to another thread is meant to slut-shame girls who only want to show off their bodies and not arouse those pesky boys who really ought to be able to rein in their hormones at will,](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=720619&highlight=dress+code+daughter) she’s bothered enough by his appearance that she wishes the school would intervene and tell him that his fashion choices are unnacceptable. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-you-dangerosa/780990/173 "2017-03-03T03:00:54Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > But as per the recent moderation: I don’t think we are allowed to talk about that any more. [Moderating] If only you’d figured that out at the top of your post, instead of the bottom, I wouldn’t be giving you a warning for ignoring moderator instructions. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-you-dangerosa/780990/174 "2017-03-03T03:56:51Z")
**Banquet Bear** , as has been pointed out, **Sarahfeena** had something to say to **Dangerosa** and by board policy was instructed to bring it here because it concerned another poster. You can’t really equate **Sarahfeena** ’s OP to a classical pitting. Both she and **IvoryTower** are some of the most thoughtful posters on the boards. Neither of them are _attacking_ **Dangerosa** on this. They are not among those with pitchforks. They are simply pointing out something which a number of us has felt to be jarring. It’s damn tough to be a parent. It’s even more so when children have tough struggles, which is seems that **Dangerosa** ’s son has. I feel for both of them. However, from personal experience I have seen the pernicious damage which occurs when there is a golden child in a family. If that is what is happening (which we really don’t know of course) then it would be worth an attempted wake up call. The sensible posters here have done just that. They have gone out of their way to show that they aren’t blaming **Dangerosa** for her son’s struggles. (Yes, there are those who have, but I think that’s really beyond what we can possible tell and it would be terrible to say so even if it _were_ true.) > [@Sarahfeena](#): > > I just want her to consider what some of us have said. QFT I do feel for her boy as well as for her. Having gone through my own substance abuse problems, it’s tough to deal with for everyone. My children are still too young to have that issue, but I really hope we are going to have other problems and not that particular one. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-you-dangerosa/780990/175 "2017-03-03T10:11:11Z")
> [@Calatin](#): > > But the majority do. That’s like saying the Earth isn’t round because not everyone believes it is. …bullshit. I would hazard a guess the overwhelming majority of members here don’t even know who Dangerosa is, let alone think that she is a problematic parent. > [@](#): > > Do you really think there’s some big conspiracy to paint \*\*Dangerosa \*\*as a bad mom, or do you think that maybe you just haven’t read the same threads as the majority of posters in this thread? Since when has asking for a cite been some sort of huge conspiracy? There is only one pattern here in this thread: and that is a pattern of a whole bunch of people not providing a cite. Are you all remembering that one thread back in 2014 and conflating it with something else? Because it sure as shit looks like that to me. It doesn’t have to be a conspiracy. You believe that Dangerosa’s comments are “kinda troubling.” I don’t think asking you “which comments are you talking about” is an unfair question to ask. So which comments are you talking about? ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-you-dangerosa/780990/176 "2017-03-03T10:21:51Z")
> [@Sarahfeena](#): > > I’d like to quote IvoryTowerDenizen from earlier in the thread: > > The part that is bolded is the best way this can be described. It’s a pattern of behavior on this message board over a number of years. There isn’t one post that can be pointed at, any one of them would likely sound innocuous on it’s own. They must be taken in aggregate in order to establish a pattern…much more than what could reasonably be quoted here. But my point in reposting this is to ask you, do you think **IvoryTowerDenizen** would make the above up? Why would she do that? Doesn’t it seem awfully specific to be something that she just pulled out of the clear blue sky? …how hard is it to find some examples of Dangerosa using “describing her daughter’s successes, failures, and tribulations is consistently empowering, positive, and validating”, and to provide examples of “the language she uses to describe her son’s successes, failures, and tribulations is consistently minimizing, negative, and invalidating?” These aren’t subjective measures. You can see examples of this in the 2014 thread. So if there is a pattern of this: then you have no excuse not to show it. If you need to point to an aggregate of posts then fucking point to an aggregate of posts. But you keep asserting a pattern exists and when I ask you to show me this pattern your response is “trust me. It exists.” Why the fuck should I just trust you? Do the fucking leg-work. This is your fucking pit thread. You’ve just provided the measure we can use. So do it already. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-you-dangerosa/780990/177 "2017-03-03T10:56:18Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > **Banquet Bear** , as has been pointed out, **Sarahfeena** had something to say to **Dangerosa** and by board policy was instructed to bring it here because it concerned another poster. You can’t really equate **Sarahfeena** ’s OP to a classical pitting. …to be clear: the instruction was “Green Bean, let’s avoid making this personal, in this forum. Use the Pit if you need to.” **Sarahfeena** is not **Green Bean**. Pitting Dangerosa was not the only option. Who starts a fucking pit thread for someone you want to help? > [@](#): > > Both she and **IvoryTower** are some of the most thoughtful posters on the boards. Neither of them are _attacking_ **Dangerosa** on this. I actually think that **Sarahfeena** is trying to help. But **Sarahfeena** started this pit thread. **IvoryTower** has made claims about another poster here in this pit thread. Asking them to back up their claims is not unreasonable in the slightest. No matter how “thoughtful” they may be. > [@](#): > > They are not among those with pitchforks. They are simply pointing out something which a number of us has felt to be jarring. And yet here we are. BigT stood up for Dangerosa and look what happened to him. This is the pit. Don’t start something here if you want to run away from the consequences. > [@](#): > > It’s damn tough to be a parent. It’s even more so when children have tough struggles, which is seems that **Dangerosa** ’s son has. I feel for both of them. > > However, from personal experience I have seen the pernicious damage which occurs when there is a golden child in a family. If that is what is happening (which we really don’t know of course) then it would be worth an attempted wake up call. Can you show me the posts that lead you to believe **Dangerosa** ’s family has a “golden child?” And please, not that same thread from 2014. Azeotrope has just cited that one again. This is getting embarrassing for you guys. If you wanted to give her a “wake up call” then you are three years too fucking late. > [@](#): > > The sensible posters here have done just that. They have gone out of their way to show that they aren’t blaming **Dangerosa** for her son’s struggles. (Yes, there are those who have, but I think that’s really beyond what we can possible tell and it would be terrible to say so even if it _were_ true.) Please be precise and tell me what her son has gone through over the last three years. What do you really know? > [@](#): > > QFT Pitting someone is a remarkably stupid way to show concern. > [@](#): > > I do feel for her boy as well as for her. Having gone through my own substance abuse problems, it’s tough to deal with for everyone. My children are still too young to have that issue, but I really hope we are going to have other problems and not that particular one. The reality is that you have no clue what she is going through. You’ve read a handful of her posts on a messageboard. We all go through shit. If, one day, (and I hope it doesn’t) when your kids are no longer young and they start having problems: I hope that you don’t slip up, say something that maybe you shouldn’t have on a messageboard and then three years later people start to lecture you on how to be a parent. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-you-dangerosa/780990/178 "2017-03-03T11:51:02Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …to be clear: the instruction was “Green Bean, let’s avoid making this personal, in this forum. Use the Pit if you need to.” **Sarahfeena** is not **Green Bean**. Pitting Dangerosa was not the only option. Who starts a fucking pit thread for someone you want to help? > > I actually think that **Sarahfeena** is trying to help. > > But **Sarahfeena** started this pit thread. **IvoryTower** has made claims about another poster here in this pit thread. Asking them to back up their claims is not unreasonable in the slightest. No matter how “thoughtful” they may be. > > And yet here we are. BigT stood up for Dangerosa and look what happened to him. This is the pit. Don’t start something here if you want to run away from the consequences. > > Can you show me the posts that lead you to believe **Dangerosa** ’s family has a “golden child?” And please, not that same thread from 2014. Azeotrope has just cited that one again. This is getting embarrassing for you guys. If you wanted to give her a “wake up call” then you are three years too fucking late. > > Please be precise and tell me what her son has gone through over the last three years. What do you really know? > > Pitting someone is a remarkably stupid way to show concern. > > The reality is that you have no clue what she is going through. You’ve read a handful of her posts on a messageboard. We all go through shit. If, one day, (and I hope it doesn’t) when your kids are no longer young and they start having problems: I hope that you don’t slip up, say something that maybe you shouldn’t have on a messageboard and then three years later people start to lecture you on how to be a parent. Between you and **BigT** , your finger-wagging generates a pretty nice breeze in here, you know that? ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-you-dangerosa/780990/179 "2017-03-03T12:53:37Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Between you and **BigT** , your finger-wagging generates a pretty nice breeze in here, you know that? …hello random person number six to address me! I’ve asked the other people a very simple question. Would you care to give it a go? Do you see this pattern the other people are talking about? Can you provide some cites? ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-you-dangerosa/780990/180 "2017-03-03T12:57:39Z")
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