# Question regarding the Celtic revival and the belief in fairies. **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [July 30, 2016, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-regarding-the-celtic-revival-and-the-belief-in-fairies/761294 "2016-07-30T16:02:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![davidmich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e56c9b/32.png) [@davidmich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidmich)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-regarding-the-celtic-revival-and-the-belief-in-fairies/761294/21 "2016-08-02T04:22:55Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > That’s true, but can we see any influence at all from that barring a couple of place names? > > (Edit: I’m deeply skeptical about the musical claims, as well—bagpipes are known all over Europe—but I’m not qualified to assess these claims.) > **[A Brief Guide to Celtic Myths and Legends](https://books.google.com.sg/books?id=4XaeBAAAQBAJ&pg=PT13&lpg=PT13&dq=galician%2Barcheologist%2Bwe%2Bare%2Bnot%2Bcelts&source=bl&ots=TWzzMzRBFD&sig=gzDS2HCOhzdOE-qISVmn44m1bNg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjcjYzH6qHOAhXHOo8KHRd9AgQQ6AEIOTAE#v=onepage&q=galician%20archeologist%20we%20are%20not%20celts&f=false)** > > A very readable guide which fills the gap between academic analysis and less critical retellings of the myths and legends. Marytn Whittock provides an accessible overview while also assessing the current state of research regarding the origins and... “It seems that not all Celtic speakers shared equally in the demonstration of what we now tend to call ‘Celtic culture’ as measured by archeology. And conversely, it is likely that not everyone who wore a La Tène-style brooch spoke Celtic. History is likely to have been less tidy than some modern museum labels and the neat maps of artefact distribution found in many modern studies. What is certainly clear is that the ancient ‘Celts’ were composed of competing and conflicting tribes; and most probably had little awareness of any pan-Celtic identity. Celtic identity is found more in the eye of the modern beholder than in the reality of ancient competing tribal politics and alliances.People living in central Europe may have shared a language that was related to that spoken in the Atlantic zone but there is good reason to think that this did not make them culturally the same. And it is highly unlikely that they ever described themselves as ‘Celtic’.” ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-regarding-the-celtic-revival-and-the-belief-in-fairies/761294/22 "2016-08-02T05:40:04Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > That’s true, but can we see any influence at all from that barring a couple of place names? > > (Edit: I’m deeply skeptical about the musical claims, as well—bagpipes are known all over Europe—but I’m not qualified to assess these claims.) Well, the thing there is that there is a big hole between that NW corner of the peninsula and the next bagpiping place. The rest of the peninsula doesn’t use bagpipes, nor does the south of France. I just googled _íberos, celtas y celtíberos_, wondering if the images there would have changed from what I was taught 30 years ago (so many things have…). And yes they have: now the Iberians are being pictured as pretty much only among the mediterranean coasts, the Celtiberians as a small area around Guadalajara (ok, sorry guys but as they are “the mixture of the other two”, that doesn’t make any sense) and the Celts as the immense majority of the Peninsula. See [here](https://tuscienciassociales-teodosio.blogspot.com.es/2011/02/celtiberos.html). [This one](http://civwiki.wikifoundry.com/page/La+Cultura+de+los+Celtiberios) is more like what I was taught. ---
**Author:** ![davidmich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e56c9b/32.png) [@davidmich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidmich)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2016, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-regarding-the-celtic-revival-and-the-belief-in-fairies/761294/23 "2016-08-03T00:53:31Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > Well, the thing there is that there is a big hole between that NW corner of the peninsula and the next bagpiping place. The rest of the peninsula doesn’t use bagpipes, nor does the south of France. > > I just googled _íberos, celtas y celtíberos_, wondering if the images there would have changed from what I was taught 30 years ago (so many things have…). And yes they have: now the Iberians are being pictured as pretty much only among the mediterranean coasts, the Celtiberians as a small area around Guadalajara (ok, sorry guys but as they are “the mixture of the other two”, that doesn’t make any sense) and the Celts as the immense majority of the Peninsula. See [here](https://tuscienciassociales-teodosio.blogspot.com.es/2011/02/celtiberos.html). [This one](http://civwiki.wikifoundry.com/page/La+Cultura+de+los+Celtiberios) is more like what I was taught. Thanks Nava. Very helpful. Thank you all. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-regarding-the-celtic-revival-and-the-belief-in-fairies/761294.md?page=1)