# Questionable modding by Aspenglow

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-modding-by-aspenglow/1010081>\
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**Created:** [November 11, 2024, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-modding-by-aspenglow/1010081 "2024-11-11T16:06:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![3AxisCtrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/ecd19e/32.png) [@3AxisCtrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3AxisCtrl)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-modding-by-aspenglow/1010081/1 "2024-11-11T16:06:23Z")

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… in the thread “The political rage that I feel is eating me up”

To a post by Beckdawrek, Aspenglow responded with this (post #101):

> [@](#):
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> This thread is for people who wish to express their anger and frustration over the results of the election. To continuously exhort them to feel otherwise is verging on a thread shit.

My issues with this response:

- The OP does not indicate that the thread should be limited to expressions of anger & frustration.
- Beckdawrek’s post is not a simple exhortation to feel otherwise. To the contrary, it contains specific suggestions that might help.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-modding-by-aspenglow/1010081/2 "2024-11-11T16:27:13Z")

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I feel confident someone flagged me for saying “ammo up”.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-modding-by-aspenglow/1010081/3 "2024-11-11T16:55:57Z")

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Moderating aside, any post in a thread that tells most of the posters “you shouldn’t feel the way you feel” is very objectionable, just on personal grounds.

For shit’s sake, people are hurting here. Leave them alone.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-modding-by-aspenglow/1010081/4 "2024-11-11T17:36:02Z")

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I don’t see where that happened. The Op reads like a cry for help. Beck’s posts seem to contain suggestions for things that might actually help. I didn’t see any ‘don’t feel like that’.

Venting is good, but when did that thread become about exclusively wallowing in the rage and fear, and not even considering what could be done?

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-modding-by-aspenglow/1010081/5 "2024-11-11T19:00:44Z")

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> [@3AxisCtrl](#):
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> Beckdawrek’s post is not a simple exhortation to feel otherwise. To the contrary, it contains specific suggestions that might help.

She literally said this:

> [@The political rage that I feel is eating me up](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-political-rage-that-i-feel-is-eating-me-up/1009971/93):
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> How helpful is it to regurgitate it over and over?
> 
> Get yourself prepped. Grocery up, ammo up. Find a way your family can be closer. Find a friend.  
> Join a resistance group. Don’t know one, start one.  
> Do something that helps.
> 
> Bitchin’, moanin’ and gnashing your teeth are all for nought.

@Aspenglow is doing their level best to keep that thread from being derailed by stupid, insensitive comments and petty bickering. I’m giving them five out of five Golden Jackboots for keeping that thread from degenerating into a pointless scrum.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-modding-by-aspenglow/1010081/6 "2024-11-11T19:03:26Z")

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I thought the post did exactly what it was accused of having done: verged on threadshitting.

Reread Beck’s comment, and then reread the OP.

Saying – in effect – “Oh, get over it” is somewhere between a near threadshit, an actual threadshit, and being a jerk, IMHO.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-modding-by-aspenglow/1010081/7 "2024-11-11T19:06:23Z")

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Sorry to take so long to get to this thread, but my dog’s anal glands needed attention this morning and the vet was waiting for us.

> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> Moderating aside, any post in a thread that tells most of the posters “you shouldn’t feel the way you feel” is very objectionable, just on personal grounds.
> 
> For shit’s sake, people are hurting here. Leave them alone.

The above very much sums up my feelings about it. No one is saying don’t offer advice, but there are threads that are better suited for it than the subject thread. Here’s one, for example:

> [@A thread for hopeful or useful thoughts or links related to what to do next](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-hopeful-or-useful-thoughts-or-links-related-to-what-to-do-next/1009838):
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> I thought we could use such a thing. I don’t want to ignore reality, but I think we could all use either a reason to go on or concrete thoughts on what we could go on to actually do. As I’ve repeatedly made clear, I’m more interested in actions than talk. Here’s a couple to start off with to foster thought and discussion. Thinking locally seems to be a strong theme generally from what I’m seeing out there.

FWIW, I did not sua sponte moderate the thread. Even though the advice post hit me sideways, I did not moderate it until a flag was thrown. Clearly, others were also put off by the advice.

I think it would be nice if we can contain the two separate sentiments in appropriate threads. One to vent, one to offer advice – _where it was actually solicited_.

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**Author:** ![3AxisCtrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/ecd19e/32.png) [@3AxisCtrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3AxisCtrl)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-modding-by-aspenglow/1010081/8 "2024-11-11T19:11:10Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> She literally said this:  
> …

Right: if you don’t count the 7 suggestions she offered, what remains is exhortation.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-modding-by-aspenglow/1010081/9 "2024-11-11T19:11:19Z")

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> [@The political rage that I feel is eating me up](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-political-rage-that-i-feel-is-eating-me-up/1009971/93):
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> She literally said this:
> 
> > [@The political rage that I feel is eating me up](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-political-rage-that-i-feel-is-eating-me-up/1009971/93):
> >
> > How helpful is it to regurgitate it over and over?  
> > […]
> > 
> > Bitchin’, moanin’ and gnashing your teeth are all for nought. ⁢

Yeah, both of these are extremely mean things to say to someone who is hurting. They are in fact saying “you should stop complaining,” and show a lack of sympathy.

I wouldn’t care if the thread was asking for advice. You never tell someone who is hurting that their their complaints are pointless.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-modding-by-aspenglow/1010081/10 "2024-11-11T19:12:51Z")

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> [@3AxisCtrl](#):
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> Right: if you don’t count the 7 suggestions she offered, what remains is exhortation.

I’m not sure that “bury your SDMB transgressions deep within a wall of text” is a guideline that we should encourage.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-modding-by-aspenglow/1010081/11 "2024-11-11T19:13:12Z")

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> [@3AxisCtrl](#):
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> Right: if you don’t count the 7 suggestions she offered, what remains is exhortation.

That’s beside the point. No advice was asked for. It was entirely unsolicited, and it was insensitive, too.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-modding-by-aspenglow/1010081/12 "2024-11-11T19:35:10Z")

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I sincerely meant to add suggestions to the OP on how to protect themselves.

We got 67 threads to gnash teeth and rehash over and over again the bad things Trump did in his life. That certainly isn’t gonna help the OP to reread it. I sure they know it. We all do.

Maybe it was mean. I’m sorry if it came out that way. I apologize to the OP.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-modding-by-aspenglow/1010081/13 "2024-11-11T19:41:15Z")

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Oh, @Aspenglow he totally asks in his OP, “Am I safe?”

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-modding-by-aspenglow/1010081/14 "2024-11-11T19:42:49Z")

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And you feel you are qualified to answer that question? I wouldn’t.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-modding-by-aspenglow/1010081/15 "2024-11-11T19:51:38Z")

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Well, I’m no expert. But I feel safe in my very red state, in my very red county.

I feel safe because we’ve taken the time to make it that way.  
It’s not like there wasn’t chance this could happen.  
My semi-prepper ex-Marine Son has spent hours hoarding and supplying what we have. My husband has spent many days making us shoot til we’re at least proficient with long guns.

We grow our own veggies. We have water wells. We have chickens. We live away from people. I have generators and solar panels.

My only concern would be dialysis. But, I’m not important enough to the workings here that if I succumbed they wouldn’t be protected.

We got a paper going in Dialysis today saying the clinic would provide service no matter what happened. As long as they were able, no matter your Social security/Medicare/Medicaid or Insurance problems.  
Not to worry.

Oh and since I’ve got you, is that perfectly ok with staff that upthread my words were highlighted in bright yellow? Seems a bit much.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-modding-by-aspenglow/1010081/16 "2024-11-11T19:53:45Z")

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I usually don’t support Beck when she gets out of her bad, bad, bad zone but she has a right to tell someone that the best solution is to stop grinding your gears, accept what is and deal with it the best you can because as much as all y’all may hate it, at some point everyone here needs to do that and focus on midterm 2026 and Mission 2028. Can someone come along and say, “We get it Beck but we need some time to get there?” Sure but a note/warning/whatever that was is too much.

And by the way Aspenglow, she did not tell them to NOT be frustrated. She said, “Bitchin’, moanin’ and gnashing your teeth are all for nought.” IOW, she didn’t tell them HOW to feel, but the non-productivity of what they were DOING with that frustration.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-modding-by-aspenglow/1010081/17 "2024-11-11T19:57:33Z")

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Not everyone is going to be happy with every moderation decision we make. I’m not changing anything.

@Beckdawrek, I encourage you to confine your helpful advice to threads that actively solicit it, else risk being mod-noted for going off topic.

With that, I’m done in this thread.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-modding-by-aspenglow/1010081/18 "2024-11-11T19:59:48Z")

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I accepted my moderation. I said “Sorry” and moved on.  
I never asked you to change it.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-modding-by-aspenglow/1010081/19 "2024-11-11T20:01:01Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Oh, @Aspenglow he totally asks in his OP, “Am I safe?”

> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> I accepted my moderation. I said “Sorry” and moved on.  
> I never asked you to change it.

The quote above this one kind of looks like you are. Thanks for clarifying.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-modding-by-aspenglow/1010081/20 "2024-11-11T20:08:17Z")

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I wish this place had upvoting of posts; in their absence, consider this my +1

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