# Questionable warning.
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-warning/836437
**Category:** About This Message Board
**Created:** [July 3, 2019, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-warning/836437 "2019-07-03T04:44:39Z")
**Posts on this page:** 19
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### Author:  [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2019, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-warning/836437/1 "2019-07-03T04:44:39Z")
Ok, so raven man posts this…
> [@What Effect Will Trump's Concentration Camps have on his reelection campaign?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/617):
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> So let’s summarize your position here:
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> 1. Migrant woman has never seen a water faucet
> 2. Such people understand that drinking water from a toilet is preferable (not clear if these ignorant people know what a toilet is, since they don’t understand faucets)
> 3. Member of Congress also can’t operate a faucet
> 4. CBP Officer lacks skills to tell someone how to operate a faucet in Spanish, but sees the woman use the toilet to drink from while supervising overcrowded cel
> 5. Dozens of other Spanish-speaking women in same cell also decline to tell the one woman not to drink from toilet
> 6. CBP can be counted on the maintain all utilities in fine working order despite overcrowding of the facility by seven times its maximum capacity, leading to outbreaks of lice and dangerous communicable diseases, where the officers feared riots due to deteriorating conditions… but it just doesn’t make sense that a faucet could be broken. Ridiculous!
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> I know I’m filling in some gaps here, but just tell me — all of this sounds quite reasonable to you, huh?
I responded directly to him with…
> [@What Effect Will Trump's Concentration Camps have on his reelection campaign?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/619):
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> You know what else he thinks isn’t completely unreasonable…
And I get this…
> [@What Effect Will Trump's Concentration Camps have on his reelection campaign?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/622):
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> You’ve brought this up multiple times, and the last one I made this comment:
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> > [@](#):
> >
> > Originally Posted by Bone
> > View Post
> > This is the second time you’ve brought this up unrelated to the thread topic. If you do it again I will give you a warning for harassment. Knock it off.
> >
> > [/moderating]
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> This is a warning for harassment.
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> [/moderating]
While I concede that, yes, I had previously brought up the OKC bomber comment by Ditka a few times in the past, in what I’ve already conceded to be in a jerkish manner for this board, i don’t feel like i was out of line THIS time. While technically, yes, it was off topic to the _thread topic_, I portend that the thread is 600+ posts long and has long ago drifted from the OP. And my post was a direct, apt response, and gentle reminder, to ravenman’s questioning of said poster’s judgment of what is reasonable. The fact that I didn’t even finish my sentence should highlight that I was purposely treading lightly and not trying to hijack.
I’ll accept the warning if the tribunal deems it appropriate. But I just want my response on record.
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### Author:  [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2019, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-warning/836437/2 "2019-07-03T05:53:05Z")
“Well sir, I’ll admit that I held a loaded weapon to that man’s head and pulled the trigger and that he died instantly. But I say sir, that I did not intend to kill him! I am NOT GUILTY of Murder!”
Dude, you got told that if you did it again, you’d get warned. You did it again.
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### Author:  [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2019, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-warning/836437/3 "2019-07-03T08:33:31Z")
Without the context, I would have thought that it was another Nazi reference. Since that was also verboten in the thread, it doesn’t help you much. Sorry dude.
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### Author:  [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2019, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-warning/836437/4 "2019-07-03T08:36:45Z")
As a slight tangent, while we’re all here, I’ll just mention that the “argument” conducted in that thread by HurricaneDitka and DrDeth seems to be nothing more than attempts to goad other board members into paroxysms of rage. So far, they seem to be doing exceedingly well at it. Is it the opinion of the moderation staff that those members are arguing in good faith?
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### Author:  [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2019, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-warning/836437/5 "2019-07-03T09:23:14Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> As a slight tangent, while we’re all here, I’ll just mention that the “argument” conducted in that thread by HurricaneDitka and DrDeth seems to be nothing more than attempts to goad other board members into paroxysms of rage. So far, they seem to be doing exceedingly well at it. Is it the opinion of the moderation staff that those members are arguing in good faith?
If good faith were required, HD and DrDeth would have been banned long ago. All that is required is a show of faux civility, and they’re good to go.
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### Author:  [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2019, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-warning/836437/6 "2019-07-03T12:38:17Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#):
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> I’ll accept the warning if the tribunal deems it appropriate. But I just want my response on record.
The tribunal directs your attention to your vidscrees, where Captain Pike’s testimony may be viewed.
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### Author:  [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2019, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-warning/836437/7 "2019-07-03T13:25:08Z")
Without knowing what the thread was about or understanding the context of the joke, the moderation seems right. You got a note stating that if you did it again you’d get a warning, then you did it again and got a warning. It doesn’t seem all that questionable.
However, this is why I’ve always argued against mod _notes_, I’ve felt were on fair. In the past, when I’ve done that, several people will tell me it’s just a note, not a warning, so I should let it go. I’ll argue that if the note was given IMO incorrectly, it needs to be retracted for just this reason. If you didn’t feel it was fair, there’s a good chance you’ll end up doing it again. Then you’ll find yourself trying to argue the unfairness of a warning instead of a note.
> [@galen\_ubal](#):
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> If good faith were required, HD and DrDeth would have been banned long ago. All that is required is a show of faux civility, and they’re good to go.
That’s true, but keep in mind that with posters like them, all you have to do is show faux civility and you’re good to go as well. If you don’t take the bait, there won’t be any issues.
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### Author:  [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2019, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-warning/836437/8 "2019-07-03T14:16:00Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#):
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> I’ll accept the warning if the tribunal deems it appropriate. But I just want my response on record.
Are you going to use it on appeal?
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### Author:  [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2019, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-warning/836437/9 "2019-07-03T14:32:00Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#):
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> If good faith were required, HD and DrDeth would have been banned long ago. All that is required is a show of faux civility, and they’re good to go.
“Why, no, good sir, I daresay I cannot recall having been intimately acquainted with my own mother in that fashion. On to another topic, might I be so bold as to suggest a yogic maneuver befitting your advanced level of elasticity?”
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### Author:  [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2019, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-warning/836437/10 "2019-07-03T14:52:26Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> As a slight tangent, while we’re all here, I’ll just mention that the “argument” conducted in that thread by HurricaneDitka and DrDeth seems to be nothing more than attempts to goad other board members into paroxysms of rage. So far, they seem to be doing exceedingly well at it. Is it the opinion of the moderation staff that those members are arguing in good faith?
The fact that some Dopers are enraged at pushback is not evidence of bad faith on the part of the pushers. IMO.
Regards,
Shodan
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### Author:  [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2019, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-warning/836437/11 "2019-07-03T15:26:22Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#):
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> I’ll accept the warning if the tribunal deems it appropriate. But I just want my response on record.
I am not a member of the tribunal although I might someday play one on TV, but I vote for you to accept your warning.
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### Author:  [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2019, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-warning/836437/12 "2019-07-03T16:25:26Z")
> [@Shodan](#):
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> The fact that some Dopers are enraged at pushback is not evidence of bad faith on the part of the pushers. IMO.
>
> Regards,
> Shodan
You might want to rethink using the term “pushers”.
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### Author:  [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2019, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-warning/836437/13 "2019-07-03T18:30:49Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> “Why, no, good sir, I daresay I cannot recall having been intimately acquainted with my own mother in that fashion. On to another topic, might I be so bold as to suggest a yogic maneuver befitting your advanced level of elasticity?”
I am hopelessly in deep, deep admiration of you.
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### Author:  [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2019, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-warning/836437/14 "2019-07-03T18:50:05Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
>
> As a slight tangent, while we’re all here, I’ll just mention that the “argument” conducted in that thread by HurricaneDitka and DrDeth seems to be nothing more than attempts to goad other board members into paroxysms of rage. So far, they seem to be doing exceedingly well at it. Is it the opinion of the moderation staff that those members are arguing in good faith?
AFAIK, I have not posted in that thread at all.
Got a cite?
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### Author:  [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2019, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-warning/836437/15 "2019-07-03T19:16:08Z")
In football, sometimes you see the defense get called for calling out signals to confuse the offense or make them jump early. Similarly, I think some posters should get warnings for being deliberately antagonizing and goading other posters into losing their tempers and violating a board rule. Personally, I think an ungoaded attack is worth a warning, but a little potshot in response to deliberately obtuse and irritating posting should just get a mod note.
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### Author:  [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2019, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-warning/836437/16 "2019-07-03T22:24:27Z")
I don’t understand the complaint. You directly and admittedly attacked the poster and not the post and you did so repeatedly. If there was ever a more clear cut violation of a rule, I have not seen it.
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### Author:  [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2019, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-warning/836437/17 "2019-07-04T18:46:08Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#):
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> The fact that I didn’t even finish my sentence should highlight that I was purposely treading lightly and not trying to hijack.
Ah, an interesting variation of the ol’ Shaft defense.
“He’s one baaaaaad mutha—“
“Shut your mouth!”
“I’m just talking about Timothy McVeigh!”
“Then we can dig it!”
I don’t think it works that way, unless you are talking about John Shaft. I think you’re stuck with the warning.
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### Author:  [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2019, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-warning/836437/18 "2019-07-04T19:56:51Z")
It’s complicated, man.
No-one understands.
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### Author:  [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2019, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questionable-warning/836437/19 "2019-07-06T05:27:28Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#):
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> While I concede that, yes, I had previously brought up the OKC bomber comment by Ditka a few times in the past, in what I’ve already conceded to be in a jerkish manner for this board, i don’t feel like i was out of line THIS time. While technically, yes, it was off topic to the _thread topic_, I portend that the thread is 600+ posts long and has long ago drifted from the OP. And my post was a direct, apt response, and gentle reminder, to ravenman’s questioning of said poster’s judgment of what is reasonable. The fact that I didn’t even finish my sentence should highlight that I was purposely treading lightly and not trying to hijack.
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> I’ll accept the warning if the tribunal deems it appropriate. But I just want my response on record.
You engaged in behavior that you were specifically directed not to do. When the original note was communicated, it was made clear you would receive a warning if you did it again. You did it again, therefore the warning. There’s no wiggle room here.