# Questions about anti-vaxxers and the COVID future **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [April 12, 2021, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-anti-vaxxers-and-the-covid-future/939874 "2021-04-12T21:37:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2021, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-anti-vaxxers-and-the-covid-future/939874/21 "2021-04-14T05:28:19Z")
> [@China\_Guy](#): > > I would like to see some carrots, such as you can’t enter an airport or go thru FAA security much less fly unless showing proof of vaccine. In fact, I’d like to see full on vaccine passports where people can’t partake in “optional” things like in person dining, bars, stadiums, kids at school, etc. I think you are a little off on what constitutes the carrot approach. Being an outcast of normal society until you get a vaccine sounds rather stick-ish to me. Eta: oh, I see you’re in China. I guess if you’re not in an organ donor prison camp, it’s all carrots. 😀 ---
**Author:** ![PookahMacPhellimey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pookahmacphellimey/32/3175_2.png) [@PookahMacPhellimey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PookahMacPhellimey)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2021, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-anti-vaxxers-and-the-covid-future/939874/22 "2021-04-14T10:19:13Z")
Here in Italy healthcare workers must be vaccinated. If they refuse, they are offered office jobs if possible. If not, they will lose their employment. I’m not convinced vaccine passports are a good idea in all cases, but for healthcare this seems totally reasonable. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2021, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-anti-vaxxers-and-the-covid-future/939874/23 "2021-04-14T10:46:14Z")
The same rules that would cause (some) Amish (and possibly Mennonites) to refuse vaccination would also prevent them from working what we would call “frontline jobs”: The purpose is to prevent, as much as possible, interaction between the Amish community and “the English” (everyone else). And when you follow a rule like that (literally) religiously, it really does do a lot to prevent disease spread: It’s like the social distancing and “podding” that we’ve all been encouraged to do for the past year, except that they’re experienced at it (they don’t need to leave their community to buy groceries, for instance). ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2021, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-anti-vaxxers-and-the-covid-future/939874/24 "2021-04-15T02:40:10Z")
**Moderator Note** > [@FigNorton](#): > > oh, I see you’re in China. I guess if you’re not in an organ donor prison camp, it’s all carrots. While there are some legitimate comments to be made about human rights issues in China, this is just a cheap stereotype and is more of a pot-shot than anything else. These types of comments are not appropriate in this forum. Please do not do this again. ---
**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2021, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-anti-vaxxers-and-the-covid-future/939874/25 "2021-04-15T02:47:44Z")
I’m sorry it came off as a pot shot but I wasn’t riffing on a stereotype. It was a real story. > **[Organ harvesting from Falun Gong practitioners in China](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_harvesting_from_Falun_Gong_practitioners_in_China)** > > Pages for logged out editors learn more > > > Allegations of forced organ harvesting from Falun Gong practitioners and other political prisoners in China have raised concern within the international community. According to a controversial report by former lawmaker David Kilgour, human rights lawyer David Matas and journalist Ethan Gutmann of the US government think tank Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation, political prisoners, mainly Falun Gong practitioners, are being executed "on dem... [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-anti-vaxxers-and-the-covid-future/939874.md?page=1)