Questions about dilating and labor...

Thanks for the more stories!

So - I guess I could continue dilating without much pain for a while. THAT would be nice! I’m not exactly looking forward to the pain part. Imagine that! :slight_smile:

The top of my stomach does get hard from time to time, it feels strange - but doens’t hurt. It also doesn’t last much more than like ten seconds at a time. There is no pain when this happens, so I’ve just been thinking it is the baby doing bizarre things as usual. And it may happen one time this hour, and then not again for three or four hours. Unless of course I am not noticing it during the inbetween times.

irishgirl my doctor did strip my membrane at my appointment on Tuesday. They said (I keep saying they because I have a husband and wife team) they may have to do it again. When I went on Thursday I saw the husband (on Tuesday I saw the wife) and he was like - she’s already at 3cm - so he didn’t have to do it again. OR - if he did it a little bit again it didn’t hurt at all that time. When she did it on Tuesday it was definitely unpleasant!

Stripping the membranes is basically a way of getting the waters to break a little earlier, in the hope that this will kickstart labour. It’s less invasive than artifically rupturing the membranes, but the principle is the same, although obviously it’s a bit more hit and miss.

I’m keeping my fingers crossed that you’ll be holding your little one by Hallowe’en, and that he or she will be good and come out nice and easily for you!

We just had our first baby 12 days ago.

The labor was nothing like what we’d been told. Remember the “early labor” and “First stage labor” and all that from prenatal class, with the pleasant videos of a man and wife having a walk or maybe working on an exercise ball? None of that happened. It started, and contractions were excruciatingly, paralyzingly painful and sixty seconds apart for eight hours and then out popped a baby. In that span she went from 1 cm to full dilation in just over five hours.

I’m now of the opinion that no labor is typical.

Thanks for the wishes irishgirl. My husband would actually love a Hallowe’en baby!

RickJay - wow! Sounds like quick and painful was the way the Mrs. went with you.

I guess I’m just in the - will happen in the baby’s own sweet time group. And the baby is definitely taking time!

I’ve had more discharge today that is colored, so maybe my membrane still hasn’t fully passed afterall.

I had a co-worker who spent three weeks at 7 cm. She had to lean way back in her chair when sitting, because otherwise she could feel that she was sitting on the baby’s head. :eek:

It will happen when it happens. But this

seems to be a fairly reliable sign that it is imminent. :wink:

Skittles, I have nothing to add, since I’m 23 weeks away from this being an issue, but I wanted to say I hope everything goes as smoothly as possible for you. I like trublmakr’s “lift leg and shoot it out” scenario and I hope that for you. I hope you get your epidural. Maybe you can call the anethesiologist from the car on your way to the hospital. :smiley:

Gaaaaahhh!! :covers ears: I can’t hear you, I can’t hear you!

I should know better than to open threads like this. I don’t even want to know how membranes are stripped. I’m learning new things every day, I swear.

shudder Just having a horrible flashback to my own labor last week. God, that sucked. The nurse had given me a shot of some sort of painkiller, and I still had a contraction that just wouldn’t end–I think the membrane had sagged into the cervical opening and caused massive cramping on top of the labor contraction; fortunately, the anesthesiologist came in the middle of that one, and once they could get me sat up, sweet, sweet relief was mine. ASK FOR THE EPIDURAL, LADIES.

Sorry, I don’t have any advice for the OP, just had to share my painful labor experience–I was sent to the hospital because one baby had stopped growing, and it was time to get them out, but I hadn’t dilated or gone into real labor yet. They attempted to induce me, and I was dilated with the help of Cervidil and went into active labor, but ended up having to have a c-section.

I was 3 cm dilated when I went to the hospital, but only because I had a scheduled induction (due to a medical condition). I wasn’t have contractions or anything…just got up in the morning, took a shower and got dressed, and toddled on over to the maternity ward. They induced me, broke my waters a few hours later, gave me an epidural at about lunchtime, then wheeled me in for an emergency c-section at 6 pm (my baby had the cord wrapped around his shoulder and neck). Even with all the medical intervention stuff, the whole thing was actually very pleasant (I really, really liked my doctor - he was just fantastic throughout the whole pregnancy).

Hopefully, you’re packing your bags about now and won’t read this message :slight_smile: .

C3 I wish I could say I was packing my bags and not reading messages.

Actually, my bag is already packed and in the truck waiting for me. I figured I didn’t want to forget it in the rush to leave the house. Needless to say, there is no rushing to leave the house. :frowning:

I still haven’t felt anything that I would classify as a contraction. sigh I know, I know - be patient. I guess I wish that my doctor never mentioned to me that the baby is measuring larger than he should - but not in a bad way. I guess that has my hopes up that I would go early. AND - being that I have already started to dilate…well, it doesn’t help matters either.

Maybe if I could actually rest it would be easier. I can’t really sleep anymore because I am so uncomfortable…and not to mention anxious.

I try to explain to my husband that it is like being super excited for a holiday, or a trip, or something super fun…but not knowing when it is going to happen. With a vacation you see you can count down the days until you actually leave to go away. With this - you know it is going to happen - but you just don’t know when. And I do get very excited…and am TERRIBLE at waiting for surprises! So that isn’t helping matters AT ALL!!!

It was getting near the 24-hour mark since my water broke with my first child, and so the midwife told me to spend more time on all 4’s and have my husband suck on my nipples. This had the benefit of relieving my back and nudging the baby (don’t do this if high blood pressure is an issue), and it produces oxytocin, which increases contractions. I’m not sure if orgasm increases oxytocin, but it makes the wait more pleasant. Labor finally started moving along following our all-4’s nipple-sucking session.

Get the epidural if you wish, or if you need it, but please educate yourself on its risks to yourself and your baby (and yes, they do exist) so that you won’t have to say later “How come nobody TOLD me I could have an epidural headache for days/weeks” or “How come nobody TOLD me that my baby could be too sleepy to nurse due to the anaesthetic being passed to him during labor?” It’s true, the chances are that it will be fine, and there will be no aftereffects. But they can happen, so educate yourself.

Have a backup plan in case an epidural is not available (it happens), cannot be placed successfully (it happens), simply doesn’t work (it happens) or only works on one side (you got it.) Have plans in place for how you will cope with labor pain - relaxation, hot water bottles, labor ball, hypnobirthing, and a really good labor support person. I recommend a doula very strongly. They’re trained to support you, and a professional support person who is there for you and your husband, who doesn’t have to do other, hospital-related things, and who furthermore will help you remember what your wishes are for the birth when your brain has shut down and you may be being pressured to accept things you didn’t want simply because it’s policy… is worth her weight in gold.

Dilation is irrelevent. Seriously.* But allowing your doctor to strip your membranes may lead - as it did in my first pregnancy - to an “accidental” rupture of membranes, which means you are abruptly and unexpectedly “on the clock”, with the increased risk of infection that comes with AROM, and the increased risk of surgical birth that comes with induced/augmented labors that do not start spontaneously. Go ahead with membrane-stripping if you understand and accept this possible outcome.

*I was at 4cm for weeks with my firstborn, with prodromal labor (1 contraction every 7 minutes by the clock for weeks). My best friend was at 8cm for a week. Mind you, when she finally went into labor, it was a very short labor! My OB told me of a woman who came in for her 40 week checkup, no contractions at all…at 10cm. They took her up to L&D, broke her water, and told her to push. Shortly thereafter she had a baby in her arms and she NEVER had a contraction. Every OB has seen women they’d swear is going to delivery within 24 hours, who goes another week or two, and women whose cervixes are high, tight and closed at their appointments, who deliver that evening. You just never know. (But probably, you’ll get to experience plenty of labor before your kiddo is born.)

Please don’t let anybody tell you “if you’re at 4cm, you are in labor” (as happened to me, leading to “augmentation”, which led to “failure” of my labor, which led to cesarean section). It is true, most women are in labor at 4cm. But you might be an exception - relax! Your body knows what it’s doing! Every woman deserves to be seen, and treated, as an individual - not as an average, not as a statistic, and certainly not using a one-size-fits-all policy.

Blood tinged mucus is a really good sign that labor is around the corner - but only if you haven’t had any exams. The doc stripping your membranes pretty much always leads to some bloodiness and it not a hint of labor to come.

I pretty much second what Chotii says and encourage you to imagine yourself pregnant for another 10 days and having an 18 hour labor. Setting artificial limits to your pregnancy (this weekend) and labor can be demoralizing if your expectations are not met.

I’m wishing you a labor that never makes you ask for the epidural.

Let me give an ultra-brief rundown of my first pregnancy/labor/delivery because I know my post was confusing:

I was at 3-4cm for weeks, with contractionsn every 7 minutes from something like 35 weeks onward. I now believe this was because my daughter was in a posterior lie.

I went to my 39 week checkup. Dr. found me to be at 4cm. Dr stripped my membranes without my consent or knowledge and “accidentally” broke the membrane with his gloved fingers. He said “Oops”. He said “Well, you’re having contractions, you’re at 4cm, and your water is broken, congratulations, you’re in labor, go straight to the hospital, do not go home and get your bag.” He said “By the way, I’ll be on call the next 2 days.”

24 hours of pitocin later, my daughter was taken by cesarean.

I consider this labor to have been mismanaged, and my cesarean one of ‘created necessity’ rather than ‘emergency’. Lesson learned: I should have had a doula, should have taken classes other than those offered by the hospital, should have educated myself more. Did so in subsequent pregnancies, very happy.

I also had my membranes stripped without my consent, during an induced labor (for preeclampsia) - with my doula present. Unfortunately, a doula can’t really prevent that one - it’s not like she can see what that hand is doing while an exam is going on. And even if you’d planned a doula, she wouldn’t have been with you at the routine exam where your membranes were accidentally broken. That said, I agree that they’re great. But sometimes all the education and support in the world can’t protect you.

(I had Cervidil and pitocin to induce labor. Contractions were proceeding nicely, with me barely able to feel them even with pitocin at the max setting, but I was dilating slowly. About half an hour after my membranes were stripped, my water broke and the contractions suddenly got very very intense. After several hours, I asked for the epidural and took a nap. When I woke up, I was at 10 cm with no urge to push. I tried anyway for 4 hours, then had a section.)

Oh, of course not! But it’s better to know, and have a chance of having a say in your experience, than not to know, and be carried along like a little boat on a big institutional river.

Funnily enough, I hired a doula for my 3rd birth (VBA2C) and she never showed up. So even hiring a doula isn’t a guarantee you’ll have one. :wink: That’s a story for another time though.

I was induced at 37 weeks after approximately 1 billion false labors and then finally being unable to walk because my pelvis decided to seperate itself. No, this won’t happen to you.

The labor that produced my son was 29 hours. All the time from the false labors/stalled labors, I figure I have close to 100 hours of various types of labor experience.

What your doctor will do depends on a great deal of factors. I’d imagine if you got to 6 or more cm dialated they’d have you go to L&D, contractions or no.

Labor contractions feel an awful lot like Montezuma’s Revenge. A pressurey crampy bowels-about-to-explode feeling that comes and goes. Also, you’ll feel a lot like punching someone. This comes from hormone swings rather than pain. However, I suggest you go with it. That bastard put it in you, and he’d best suffer right along with you while it’s coming out.

Before you punch him though, I suggest sex. Lots of sex. Semen contains prostaglandins, and that may well kick start things a bit. If you are too uncomfortable to have intercourse, have an orgasm by whatever means necessary- the uterine contractions that follow may also get things moving. Also, you deserve as much ice cream, massages, and orgasms as possible right now. You have earned them.

If Monday rolls around and there is no baby, contractions, broken water, or anything similar, see if your doc will strip your membranes or give you something to help speed things along.

BTW, I was around 5-6 cm when I had my epidural. So hopefully you’ll get yours when you need it. :slight_smile: If not, ask if they can give you a local vaginally to relieve at least some of the pain.

And don’t worry! Labor is waaaaaaaay easier and better than pregnancy!

I do not advise induction for anything short of medical NEED. Why? Because if your body isn’t ready, it isn’t ready, and whipping your uterus into violent activity with animal-derived hormones isn’t going to make a bit of difference if your cervix isn’t ready. Except maybe to get you a surgery you weren’t counting on.

Weeks are irrelevent. “Due dates” are irrelevent. Seriously. Your baby has not read the pregnancy books that say ‘babies are ready at 37 weeks’. Some babies are NOT ready at 37 weeks. I met a woman when I was on hospital bedrest with my twins, who was 40 weeks pregnant. She had a benign tumor on her spine that had her in absolute, unrelenting agony. But her baby’s lungs were not mature - that’s right, at 40 weeks - and so they would not take the child by cesarean, but kept the mother as comfortable as possible on painkillers. (And they couldn’t remove the tumor until the baby was born.) I have known moms who naturally carry their babies to 43, 44, even more weeks, and give birth to perfectly healthy babies. The “due date” is based on the average, or maybe mean, gestational age. It’s not a pop-up timer that goes off and says “You’re done!” Every woman is different. Every baby is different.

The AVERAGE length of pregnancy for first time moms is 10 days PAST the so-called “due date”. I have no idea why doctors don’t just tell first-time moms that their due date is 10 days later than the wheel-of-fortune says it is, to spare them the expectations and frustration of failing to perform on time.

On the other hand, I’m glad for any mom who delivers a healthy baby sooner rather than later. Because late pregnancy really sucks. :smiley:

Skittles, I’m concerned that some of these stories might trigger more worries and make your sleeplessness worse. Rest up, even catnaps help. You’ll need your strength soon for the birthing and to care for the baby once he/she is born. Birth is a long process, and it’s beginning and progressing as your body needs it to. I’m sure you’ve done your own good research and planning, you’ve assembled the people who will support and care for you, and it’s time now to trust and surrender a bit to the wisdom of your body. You will be alert enough to speak your mind if need be, but for now all is well and there’s no reason think otherwise, right?

I wish you the best, and look forward to hearing later about your baby.

Well, I don’t mean to scare. I mean to empower. And I never assume that people are as educated as they think they are…because when I was a first-time mom I didn’t know how much I didn’t know. If I’m scaring, then I’m sorry. I’m trying to make the point that every mom is unique, every baby is unique, and every pregnancy is unique…and deserves to be treated that way.

And, the more you know, the better chance you have of getting what you want - a positive experience and a healthy baby.

If Skittles and her doctor communicate well and are on the same page, then she’s in a good, strong position for a safe, positive birth. That’s all I hope for anybody.

It can go a lot worse than that.

Women in my family have very slow labors. (And enormous babies. I’m guessing it’s related, as it takes a long time to stretch out enough to fit that 10 pounder out. I was born at 33 weeks and was 5.5 lbs). For generations we’d been having babies with no real problems, but modern obstetrics isn’t particularly fond of the way we operate. My aunt was given pitocin and something else, the name excapes me, because she was progressing too slowly. It’s a miracle she and my cousin both survived the uterine rupture that followed. I’ve become a big believer in, baring fetal distress, letting nature take it’s course, however slow that may be.