# Questions about Hitler and Nazi Germany's attempted extermination of Europe's Jews **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [September 18, 2013, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-hitler-and-nazi-germanys-attempted-extermination-of-europes-jews/669168 "2013-09-18T19:02:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 26
**Author:** ![Gack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecccb3/32.png) [@Gack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gack)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-hitler-and-nazi-germanys-attempted-extermination-of-europes-jews/669168/501 "2013-09-23T12:19:30Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > I’d have finished my PhD much quicker if I were able to take evidence I didn’t like and just say “I don’t think that’s a credible experiment.” Instead, they do this pesky thing where we have to explain WHY we think we can discount a specific result, and we actually have to have a good reason beyond “I reckon that number ain’t right”. > > Also, we’re still waiting for all of those piles of information that have been suppressed by the powers that be that Gack claims he’s just desperately eager to share with the world. Still waiting. I think that it is self-evident that 100 Nazis plus Ukrainians cannot gas and cremate 10000 Jews in a day, day after day. So, we have testimony, that is, someone said it happened. It seems awfully unlikely to me. At that point, without physical evidence, I don’t believe it. It’s called skepticism. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-hitler-and-nazi-germanys-attempted-extermination-of-europes-jews/669168/502 "2013-09-23T12:28:35Z")
> [@Gack](#): > > I think that it is self-evident that 100 Nazis plus Ukrainians cannot gas and cremate 10000 Jews in a day, day after day. There were a lot more than 100 people involved. > [@http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/auschtrial.html](#): > > Historians at the Auschwitz State Museum estimate that the SS staff of Auschwitz numbered approximately 700 people in 1941, 2,000 in 1942, 3,000 in April 1944, and reached its peak with the evacuation in January 1945, with 4,415 SS men and 71 SS women overseers. Between 7,000 and 7,200 people served on the staff of Auschwitz at one time or another according to the card files of personnel. That’s Auschwitz alone, never mind the other camps. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-hitler-and-nazi-germanys-attempted-extermination-of-europes-jews/669168/503 "2013-09-23T12:45:08Z")
> [@Gack](#): > > At that point, without physical evidence, I don’t believe it. It’s called skepticism. There’s tons of physical evidence that we have linked for you – teeth, bones, bone fragments, bone ash, human fat residue, chemical remnants of lime-dissolution of bodies, etc. You just hand-wave it away. I just wonder when you’re going to realize that the IHR and other Holocaust-deniers have their own agenda, and it ain’t the truth. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-hitler-and-nazi-germanys-attempted-extermination-of-europes-jews/669168/504 "2013-09-23T13:07:47Z")
[QUOTE=Quartz] That’s Auschwitz alone, never mind the other camps. [/QUOTE] It’s my understanding that they also used a trustee system, that is to say “turncoat” prisonners who’d work with the Nazis in exchange for, presumably, getting killed last. Or getting 25 grams of bread a week, or a sippy cup of vodka, or something equally dismal that’d nevertheless have been a feast in context. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-hitler-and-nazi-germanys-attempted-extermination-of-europes-jews/669168/505 "2013-09-23T13:37:43Z")
> [@Gack](#): > > I think that it is self-evident that 100 Nazis plus Ukrainians cannot gas and cremate 10000 Jews in a day, day after day. Why is that self evident? Are you an expert in this sort of thing? 100-200 people can do quite a lot of things if they’re reasonably well organized. 200 people would be a fairly large enterprise capable of a lot of effort. As to eyewitness reports, I realize you aren’t going to read this but I’ll throw a Hail Mary; eyewitness reports of true things always get details wrong. That does not mean the event did not happen. If you were to ask 100 people where they were and what they were doing when the World Trade Center was destroyed on 9/11 all of them would have vivid, clear memories of it. But in fact, a shocking number of them, perhaps as many as 25, would be totally wrong. I’m serious; you can do a stdy of this (and people have) and the propensity for people to just completely misremember that sort of thing is remarkable. **That does not mean 9/11 didn’t essentially happen in the manner we remember it.** My grandfather was a bomber pilot in Bomber Command during the Second World War. He told me many tales about it, and the fact is that he got some of the details wrong. He just did. **That does not mean the Second World War didn’t happen, or that life in Bomber Command was not essentially as he described it.** You are still looking at pebbles and missing the mountain. Why you do not understand the mot rudimentary, logical things about stuff like eyewitness testimony, I cannot say. I don’t know if you’re very young and ignorant of common sense, or ideologically driven, or what, but saying the Holocaust didn’t happen because old Mr. Hertzel or whomever says that Sobibor had 100 guards when this other reference says 200 is just ridiculous. If I documented your trip to the mall and afterwards asked you to describe it in detail, I am absolutely, one hundred percent certain you’d get a detail or three wrong. **That does not mean you didn’t go to the mall.** Don’t you get that? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-hitler-and-nazi-germanys-attempted-extermination-of-europes-jews/669168/506 "2013-09-23T14:10:32Z")
> [@Gack](#): > > Science in action. Science yes. GOOD science? No. That’s on the level of Mythbusters. And while that’s a good show and introduces people to the concept of hypothesis and testing, what they do is hardly rigorous. You believe a cut up chicken is equivalent to a pile of human bodies? Color me surprised. :rolleyes: A single tire does not a tire fire make, nor does a single cut up chicken in a tin can in your back yard make a pile of human corpses in a dedicated crematorium. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-hitler-and-nazi-germanys-attempted-extermination-of-europes-jews/669168/507 "2013-09-23T14:24:28Z")
> [@Gack](#): > > I think that it is self-evident that 100 Nazis plus Ukrainians cannot gas and cremate 10000 Jews in a day, day after day. > > So, we have testimony, that is, someone said it happened. It seems awfully unlikely to me. > > At that point, without physical evidence, I don’t believe it. It’s called skepticism. And all that suppressed information you claimed to have? You rather pointedly ignored that half of my post. I’m allowing others who are better versed in historical fact explain why this part of your answer is, unsurprisingly, less than rock solid. ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-hitler-and-nazi-germanys-attempted-extermination-of-europes-jews/669168/508 "2013-09-23T14:24:57Z")
> [@Gack](#): > > I confess I have no idea of what you are talking about, unless it is Blobel’s account of the cremation process. > > And, coincidentally, I realize that I do have a can of gas in my garage for the mower. However, if you read the Blobel quote is says and ‘inflammable material’ was placed over the bodies, which I read as flammable material, but it does not say what the material is. So I went to the site to review it and the page is down. So, before I proceed I will need to find another copy of the confession, hopefully in German, and hopefully someone can translate what the material is. > > One of the other accounts I just read says that the bodies were stacked, gasoline was poured on, the fire was lit and that was that. That is effectively the same as Blobel’s description. > > I also realized that I can do the experiment even with gasoline as Blobel describes covering the bodies with inflammable(sp) material, but not adding it, so I can pull that off. > > I plan to use a cut up chicken to approximate packed bodies. > > Science in action. > > I’ll bet $100 the chicken is barely touched. I love this part. I can see him in my mind’s eye, outside by the grill, cutting up chicken breasts, inserting little shards of bone to simulate skeletons - nicking his finger, cursing the conspiracy that has blunted his knives, muttering ‘_Blut und Boden_’ as it drips onto the ground beside his grill. Making the little camp rags for the chicken strips is difficult, and dressing them seems silly, but authenticity is key. He stops himself from making SS chicken guards, although he is tempted. He arranges the chicken prisoners in his backyard Weber crematorium with care. It’s tough to make them fit right, as the scale is way off, the Weber is rounder than a dug pit, and has a bottom ash grill. Finally he does his best, using parts scavenged from his twin towers lego-and-wooden-skewer model, and his lunar lander leg reflector simulator. He has no idea how to simulate the amount of fuel used, since there are problems of scale, so he makes a tiny chicken-strip-guard-sized gas can and walks at around the perimeter of the weber, chucking in fuel. Finally, he lights it, and a plume of chickeny dense acrid black smoke fills the sky, and the neighbors all look up and think, “Oh, God, Gack is at it again, I remember when he burnt down the elm tree after 9-11”. Be careful **Gack**. Handling raw chicken can make you sick, and gasoline is very dangerous to mess with. Don’t hurt yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-hitler-and-nazi-germanys-attempted-extermination-of-europes-jews/669168/509 "2013-09-23T14:29:17Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Why is that self evident? Are you an expert in this sort of thing? > > 100-200 people can do quite a lot of things if they’re reasonably well organized. 200 people would be a fairly large enterprise capable of a lot of effort. > > As to eyewitness reports, I realize you aren’t going to read this but I’ll throw a Hail Mary; eyewitness reports of true things always get details wrong. That does not mean the event did not happen. > > If you were to ask 100 people where they were and what they were doing when the World Trade Center was destroyed on 9/11 all of them would have vivid, clear memories of it. But in fact, a shocking number of them, perhaps as many as 25, would be totally wrong. I’m serious; you can do a stdy of this (and people have) and the propensity for people to just completely misremember that sort of thing is remarkable. **That does not mean 9/11 didn’t essentially happen in the manner we remember it.** > > My grandfather was a bomber pilot in Bomber Command during the Second World War. He told me many tales about it, and the fact is that he got some of the details wrong. He just did. **That does not mean the Second World War didn’t happen, or that life in Bomber Command was not essentially as he described it.** > > You are still looking at pebbles and missing the mountain. Why you do not understand the mot rudimentary, logical things about stuff like eyewitness testimony, I cannot say. I don’t know if you’re very young and ignorant of common sense, or ideologically driven, or what, but saying the Holocaust didn’t happen because old Mr. Hertzel or whomever says that Sobibor had 100 guards when this other reference says 200 is just ridiculous. If I documented your trip to the mall and afterwards asked you to describe it in detail, I am absolutely, one hundred percent certain you’d get a detail or three wrong. **That does not mean you didn’t go to the mall.** > > Don’t you get that? Hell, the Titanic was IIRC, almost a mile long and the survivors disagreed over whether or not it split in half before it sunk, which is something you’d think would be hard to miss. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-hitler-and-nazi-germanys-attempted-extermination-of-europes-jews/669168/510 "2013-09-23T14:40:37Z")
> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#): > > I love this part. > > I can see him in my mind’s eye, outside by the grill, cutting up chicken breasts, inserting little shards of bone to simulate skeletons - nicking his finger, cursing the conspiracy that has blunted his knives, muttering ‘_Blut und Boden_’ as it drips onto the ground beside his grill. Making the little camp rags for the chicken strips is difficult, and dressing them seems silly, but authenticity is key. He stops himself from making SS chicken guards, although he is tempted. > > He arranges the chicken prisoners in his backyard Weber crematorium with care. It’s tough to make them fit right, as the scale is way off, the Weber is rounder than a dug pit, and has a bottom ash grill. Finally he does his best, using parts scavenged from his twin towers lego-and-wooden-skewer model, and his lunar lander leg reflector simulator. > > He has no idea how to simulate the amount of fuel used, since there are problems of scale, so he makes a tiny chicken-strip-guard-sized gas can and walks at around the perimeter of the weber, chucking in fuel. Finally, he lights it, and a plume of chickeny dense acrid black smoke fills the sky, and the neighbors all look up and think, “Oh, God, Gack is at it again, I remember when he burnt down the elm tree after 9-11”. > > Be careful **Gack**. Handling raw chicken can make you sick, and gasoline is very dangerous to mess with. Don’t hurt yourself. Great - now I see it too… oh the horror! ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-hitler-and-nazi-germanys-attempted-extermination-of-europes-jews/669168/511 "2013-09-23T14:56:48Z")
> [@simster](#): > > Great - now I see it too… oh the horror! Is he in full SS regalia in yours too ? Is he furiously masturbating as well ? ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-hitler-and-nazi-germanys-attempted-extermination-of-europes-jews/669168/512 "2013-09-23T15:05:47Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Is he in full SS regalia in yours too ? > Is he furiously masturbating as well ? yes - and like a mother… ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-hitler-and-nazi-germanys-attempted-extermination-of-europes-jews/669168/513 "2013-09-23T15:15:24Z")
> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#): > > Be careful **Gack**. Handling raw chicken can make you sick, and gasoline is very dangerous to mess with. Don’t hurt yourself. I can predict the outcoome. The chicken burning test shows that flesh and bones do not act as expected. _Chicken_ flesh and bones. Using **Gack** ’s style of logic, that’s because they were chickens. _You are going to have to use H. sapiens carcases for a valid test._ And I know where we can find some. Go ahead, dig 'em up; we can wait. ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-hitler-and-nazi-germanys-attempted-extermination-of-europes-jews/669168/514 "2013-09-23T15:43:06Z")
> [@Musicat](#): > > **Gack,** I challenge you to read the links in **coremelt’s** post #482, especially the one by Hershl Sperling. Do not skip a single word. If you can read these without emotion, you must be non-human. Do you think these witnesses are lying? > [@Gack](#): > > I’ve read the first two accounts and am skeptical of both for the following reasons … > > Each reports that 8000 - 10000 were killed per day, and the total quickly reaches into the hundreds of thousands, and yet there are no bodies that have been found. > > The story is that for a time they were buried and then dug up and cremated, but the account in Wiernik is not credible. I don’t believe there is a credible account. > > From wiki … > > T_he camp was operated by 20–25 SS overseers (Germans and Austrians) and 80–120 Wachmänner guards from the east, trained at Trawniki._ > > Sperling writes … > > _But on average ten thousand people per day are murdered in Treblinka_ > > Helfing’s writes … > > \*The 8,000 people would be gone in two hours? > > Yeah\* > > So, the Nazis plus Ukranians are outnumbered 100 to 1, and that is not counting the Jewish residents of camp, and yet they manage to kill, bury and/or burn 10,000 people per day. The numbers seem very unlikely to me. > > Martin Gilbert is an esteemed British historian … > > \*According to Martin Gilbert in his book, Holocaust Journey, the gas chambers at Treblinka utilized carbon monoxide from diesel engines. \* > > There is a problem with this, unlike gasoline engines, diesel engines do not produce appreciable CO, and in fact are commonly used in mines … see for example … > > [https://www.osha.gov/dts/hazardalerts/diesel\_exhaust\_hazard\_alert.html](https://www.osha.gov/dts/hazardalerts/diesel_exhaust_hazard_alert.html) > > So, for these reasons I am skeptical of both Sperling’s and Helfing’s accounts. (I have edited this quote just to remove unnecessary numbers and extra spaces.) **Gack,** when I encouraged you to read the eyewitness accounts, I had high hopes you would be emotionally moved, as I was. How can you read about the writer’s experiences of hiding between dead bodies in order to live, hauling dead bodies out of the train, exhuming buried bodies, watching people shot when they got in a guard’s way, or pretending to be one of the designated workers just to stay alive? You don’t seem to have any interest in the humanity and the suffering. You don’t have the slightest sympathy towards your fellow man’s desperate and hopeless plight. Is this because you believe, as Hitler did, that Jews and Gypsies aren’t human? Or is it just a mental flaw that you can’t help? Instead of reading about the eyewitnesses’ sad existence, _you are more concerned with numbers and irrelevant facts._ What if the recollections were slightly off and it was only 6000 instead of 8000? What if it was a gasoline engine, not a diesel? What if it was a Tuesday, not a Wednesday? What if the stripes were horizontal instead of the reported vertical? Does that make the Holocaust any more tolerable to you or anyone else? I feel incredibly sorry that this is how you look at the world, and I have to say it: an attitude towards human life like yours is what allowed the Holocaust to happen in the first place. You would have fit right in with the guards and the Final Solution organizers. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-hitler-and-nazi-germanys-attempted-extermination-of-europes-jews/669168/515 "2013-09-23T16:21:45Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Undoubtedly you can redefine suitable evidence over and over again to ensure none has been found for the Holocaust… > > Gack: “There is no evidence!” > Everyone else: “Actually, here’s a bunch of evidence” > Gack: “Ok, but that’s just shoddy eyewitness evidence, and torture-induced confessions, and unclear documents. Where are the mass graves?” > Everyone else: “Here are the mass graves.” > Gack: “But where are the bones? Where are the bodies?” > Everyone else: “Here are the bones. Here is human ash, crushed bones, bone fragments, etc.” > Gack: “It doesn’t count until I see X number of bodies, and they must include their death certificate, signed by Hitler, with a photograph of Goebbels shooting them in the head.” > > Comical and sad. Right out of the playbook. I am reminded of someone who ended up refusing to believe that the Pentagon was hit by AA77 until provided with part numbers found on the wreckage. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-hitler-and-nazi-germanys-attempted-extermination-of-europes-jews/669168/516 "2013-09-23T16:25:59Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Hell, the Titanic was IIRC, almost a mile long and the survivors disagreed over whether or not it split in half before it sunk, which is something you’d think would be hard to miss. Umm. nitpick: Titanic was 882 feet long, not 5280. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-hitler-and-nazi-germanys-attempted-extermination-of-europes-jews/669168/517 "2013-09-23T16:35:50Z")
> [@Musicat](#): > > I feel incredibly sorry that this is how you look at the world, and I have to say it: an attitude towards human life like yours is what allowed the Holocaust to happen in the first place. You would have fit right in with the guards and the Final Solution organizers. That is, in fact, the _point_ of Holocaust Denial. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-hitler-and-nazi-germanys-attempted-extermination-of-europes-jews/669168/518 "2013-09-23T17:07:15Z")
Four questions, **Gack** (which I’ve never heard any denier answer): 1. If there was no Holocaust, what happened to the Jews? There were 3 million in Poland alone before the war and only a few thousand left when the war ended. They did not emigrate from Europe, they died. Gentile Poles died too, died aplenty, what with Hitler and Stalin both invading them, and then Hitler fighting Stalin halfway across Poland from west to east, and then Stalin fighting Hitler all the way across Poland from east to west; but they did not die in proportionately commensurate numbers, there were still millions left when the war ended. What, other than an intentional program to kill them off, can explain the deaths of all those Jews? 2. If the Holocaust is a hoax, who perpetrated that hoax and why? 3. If the Holocaust is a hoax, how were the hoaxers able to gull the presiding generals of the Nuremberg Trials, who were well positioned to get at the true facts of the matter? 4. How do you explain away the minutes of the Wannsee Conference? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-hitler-and-nazi-germanys-attempted-extermination-of-europes-jews/669168/519 "2013-09-23T17:15:04Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > 1. If there was no Holocaust, what happened to the Jews? They’re still working on the record for the world’s largest, longest “hide and seek” game. > [@](#): > > 1. If the Holocaust is a hoax, who perpetrated that hoax and why? Ashton Kutcher. He’s “punking” Western civilization. > [@](#): > > 1. If the Holocaust is a hoax, how were the hoaxers able to gull the presiding generals of the Nuremberg Trials, who were well positioned to get at the true facts of the matter? They were all paid actors. Ironically, half of them were Jewish. > [@](#): > > 1. How do you explain away the minutes of the Wannsee Conference? By refusing to read them. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-hitler-and-nazi-germanys-attempted-extermination-of-europes-jews/669168/520 "2013-09-23T17:37:19Z")
I won’t link directly because of Board rules, but if you goodle “metapedia” you will come on a site that is essentially Wikipedia for Neo-Nazis and White Nationalists. On the page “Jewish casualties in World War II,” and pages linked therefrom, you will find just about every denialist argument. I don’t think **Gack** has presented any new ones here. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-hitler-and-nazi-germanys-attempted-extermination-of-europes-jews/669168.md?page=25) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-hitler-and-nazi-germanys-attempted-extermination-of-europes-jews/669168.md?page=27)