# Questions about Jr Modding **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [May 31, 2010, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-jr-modding/541359 "2010-05-31T06:33:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-jr-modding/541359/1 "2010-05-31T06:33:41Z")
What is it? Any rules about it? I’ve seen the term used, but not sure what it’s about. Searching is not working for me. It want’s to ignore the Jr part (even in quotes). ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-jr-modding/541359/2 "2010-05-31T06:37:37Z")
Have you tried spelling it out as “Junior Moderating”? Have you tried using [Google](http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aboards.straightdope.com+%22jr+modding%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)? ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-jr-modding/541359/3 "2010-05-31T06:48:04Z")
Junior Moderator - **Noun** [**joon** -yer **mod** -uh-rey-ter] A wannabe moderator. _See: Tattletale, Hall monitor._ . ---
**Author:** ![Ostrya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/35a633/32.png) [@Ostrya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ostrya)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-jr-modding/541359/4 "2010-05-31T08:45:31Z")
How can I become a junior moderator? ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-jr-modding/541359/5 "2010-05-31T09:11:19Z")
You have to have a mental age of less than 13. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-jr-modding/541359/6 "2010-05-31T09:36:05Z")
There’s a [FAQ](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=320298) which explains terms commonly used on the Dope. This is what it has to say about junior modding: > [@](#): > > Junior Modding – When someone who is not a moderator tries to dictate how another poster should act. Thus, usurping the role of moderator when not entitled to do so. (At one end of the practice, this is just seen as annoying and arrogant on the part of person playing “junior mod”; at the other end of the practice, this is a rules violation and warnable offense.) So, yes, engaging in it is a rules violation. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-jr-modding/541359/7 "2010-05-31T11:58:24Z")
**Cochrane** has found the relevant verbiage on it. In general, a single instance of junior-modding is not going to get you into trouble, but an consistent pattern of it, esp. after we tell you to knock it off, can get you a warning. Remember, though, the way we prefer you to deal with rules violations when you see them is to _report the post_ and let a real moderator take care of it. It’s not tattling, since this isn’t middle school – it’s helping the SDMB stay a good place to hang out by letting the mods know ASAP that there’s something that needs a closer look. As you know, the mods are volunteers, so we’re not here 24/7, and even if we were, we still wouldn’t be able to cover every post in every thread. Telling us there’s a clean-up on aisle 3 means we can grab our mop and head over. **twickster** , moderator ETA: Come to think of it, if you do see someone else junior-modding, report that as well. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-jr-modding/541359/8 "2010-05-31T19:49:12Z")
**BigT** , I did try google, even looked up the FAQ. Still couldn’t construct a useful search. Thanks, **cochrane**. That’s the FAQ I was looking for. I’m trying to make sure my own behavior doesn’t fall under that label. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-jr-modding/541359/9 "2010-05-31T20:02:58Z")
> [@](#): > > See: Tattletale, Hall monitor. As opposed to the _Fucking_ Hall Monitor, who would be **manhattan**. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-jr-modding/541359/10 "2010-06-01T04:53:41Z")
Just so I’m clear: It’s OK for me to say, “don’t throw personal insults at me; that’s unpleasant.” But I’m junior modding if I say, “don’t throw personal insults at me; that’s against the rules of this forum.” Is that right? It’s difference between appealing to moral goals rather than legalism. Upon reading, I think this question sounds snarky-nitpicky, but I really don’t mean it that way. I’m asking honestly. ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-jr-modding/541359/11 "2010-06-01T08:21:30Z")
> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#): > > Just so I’m clear: It’s OK for me to say, “don’t throw personal insults at me; that’s unpleasant.” But I’m junior modding if I say, “don’t throw personal insults at me; that’s against the rules of this forum.” Is that right? It’s difference between appealing to moral goals rather than legalism. > > Upon reading, I think this question sounds snarky-nitpicky, but I really don’t mean it that way. I’m asking honestly. Im not a mod, but pointing out that someone has just insulted you and that is against the rules of the forum seems ok to me, it would be if you told Quasi he was rude to Sampiro and that it was against the rules of the forum it would be junior modding. ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-jr-modding/541359/12 "2010-06-01T09:17:39Z")
[Junior Mod Hat ON] > [@aruvqan](#): > > Im not a mod, but pointing out that someone has just insulted you and that is against the rules of the forum seems ok to me, it would be if you told Quasi he was rude to Sampiro and that it was against the rules of the forum it would be junior modding. This conversation has been marginally productive up to this point, but implying that particular posters are capable of behaving rudely seems over-the-top to me–do NOT do this again. Thread closed. [Junior Mod Hat OFF] How was that, guys? ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-jr-modding/541359/13 "2010-06-01T09:46:27Z")
That was EPIC! Do it again! ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-jr-modding/541359/14 "2010-06-01T09:50:04Z")
Lock the thread! LOCK THE THREAD! While we’ve got the last word in! ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-jr-modding/541359/15 "2010-06-01T09:54:26Z")
Asking to have a thread locked is not only Junior Modding, it is “being a jerk”. Anymore such behaviour and someone will be facing disciplinary charges. Now you can lock it. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-jr-modding/541359/16 "2010-06-01T09:59:09Z")
Junior modding won’t be tolerated, **ivan**. Warning issued. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-jr-modding/541359/17 "2010-06-01T10:11:40Z")
Warning rescinded. **Don’t. Do. That. Again.** ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-jr-modding/541359/18 "2010-06-01T10:53:02Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > Im not a mod, but pointing out that someone has just insulted you and that is against the rules of the forum seems ok to me, it would be if you told Quasi he was rude to Sampiro and that it was against the rules of the forum it would be junior modding. That just doesn’t make any sense. I can’t imagine Quasi being rude. 😃 Seriously, though, I appreciate the different point of view. This is an interesting explanation. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-jr-modding/541359/19 "2010-06-01T11:28:45Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > Im not a mod, but pointing out that someone has just insulted you and that is against the rules of the forum seems ok to me, it would be if you told Quasi he was rude to Sampiro and that it was against the rules of the forum it would be junior modding. Even there, it might not be, depending on tone (or at least that’s how I see it). To work with your specific example, to say to **Quasi** , “I’m pretty sure you didn’t mean that the way it sounds to me, but that comes across as a big ol’ slap in the face to **Sampiro** ” would, given the specific personalities involved, result in an immediate apology and clarification from **Quasi** , with thanks for having had that pointed out to him. But scolding **Quasi** , or saying the same thing to, say **Ivn** who would bristle at it, would be Junior Modding. IMO, anyway. It’s the effect that matters: does the post contribute to the goal of an enjoyable non-contentious board, or is it adding fuel to the fire? ---
**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-jr-modding/541359/20 "2010-06-01T11:29:54Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > Im not a mod, but pointing out that someone has just insulted you and that is against the rules of the forum seems ok to me, it would be if you told Quasi he was rude to Sampiro and that it was against the rules of the forum it would be junior modding. Generally, if you think someone is breaking a rule, the best thing to do (by far) is to hit the REPORT button (the little ! in the triangle in the upper right corner of the post) and let the mods look at it and decide. The main problem with “junior modding” is that someone (especially a newcomer) might be given erroneous information. Just because YOU think something is a rules violation doesn’t mean that a RLHTG\* Mod will see it that way. Quoting a rule, such as “Personal insults are not permitted in this form,” is probably technically OK… but it’s NOT OK if there’s an implication (however veiled) that you are accusing another poster of violating the rule. Thus, “Hey, Quasi, personal insults are not permitted in this forum” would probably be junior modding. Here’s the thing with junior modding: it’s not usually a “warnable” offense. We might tell you not to, but we’re not going to apply Official Warnings unless you’re doing it a lot, after being told many times to desist. Most folks want to be helpful by pointing out what the rules are, espesh to newcomers. We understand that. Most “junior modding” is just that. Our problem is that it can be not only unhelpful, but confusing. Thus, we’d rather that you just REPORT something and let a mod handle it. * * * - Real Life Honest-to-Goodness [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-jr-modding/541359.md?page=2)