# Questions about Pon Far - Star Trek and Vulcan Sex

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 15, 2004, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-pon-far-star-trek-and-vulcan-sex/245257 "2004-05-15T08:27:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2013, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-pon-far-star-trek-and-vulcan-sex/245257/21 "2013-07-13T02:02:14Z")

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I’m trying to imagine the google search that resurrected this thread.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2013, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-pon-far-star-trek-and-vulcan-sex/245257/22 "2013-07-13T02:17:37Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> I’m trying to imagine the google search that resurrected this thread.

I wish you didn’t have to! :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2013, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-pon-far-star-trek-and-vulcan-sex/245257/23 "2013-07-13T05:48:45Z")

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> [@smiling\_bandit](#):
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> . . . Klingons now, yeah, I’d be surprised if they didn’t have a Cult of the Spear, ifyaknowwhatImean. 😃

Grin! And what do the Andorians use those “antennae” for, eh?

But I want an Orion, just like the Orion, who mind-wiped dear old dad!

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-pon-far-star-trek-and-vulcan-sex/245257/24 "2013-07-14T08:45:02Z")

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> [@Malacandra](#):
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> Are they viviparous and do they lactate? Signs point to yes.

Those aren’t the only requirements. Those are just for separating Mamalia from other Animalia.

And I don’t think we know that they lactate, although Tuvok did imply in Voyager that they give a live birth, as his wife’s labor took 5 days or so with one of his kids.

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-pon-far-star-trek-and-vulcan-sex/245257/25 "2013-07-15T15:42:50Z")

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In a _New Frontier_ book, Dr. Selar goes into pon farr in a flashback chapter, and it’s quite intense from her perspective.

She goes on to say that pon farr is necessitated by the illogic of reproduction (who wants babies when they’re needy, shouting, shitting monsters?) and thus, pon farr evolved to _force_ Vulcans to reproduce and continue the species. (So, presumably, homosexual sex wouldn’t break the cycle).

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-pon-far-star-trek-and-vulcan-sex/245257/26 "2013-07-15T16:47:08Z")

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> [@S\_Kendal](#):
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> Since we Vulcans are a logical race and Pon Far is to result in child-bearing, it is illogical to think that there would be homosexual Vulcans. I can tell you for sure that there aren’t homosexual Vulcans. The fact that a human can ask such a question shows that you humans do not understand us and are too obsessed with deviant sexual practices.

I smell an “Ask the Vulcan” MPSIMS thread coming on!

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