# Questions for Straight Men about Vagina **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [July 20, 2010, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-for-straight-men-about-vagina/547393 "2010-07-20T21:28:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![BigBertha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@BigBertha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigBertha)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-for-straight-men-about-vagina/547393/141 "2010-07-22T04:31:31Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Do women shave their legs to look like little girls also? No, they shave their legs because smooth legs are sexy and feminine, their pussy is no different. No, because the razor companies wanted it. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-for-straight-men-about-vagina/547393/142 "2010-07-22T04:41:18Z")
Besides, kids have hairy legs. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-for-straight-men-about-vagina/547393/143 "2010-07-22T04:47:13Z")
I want to make this clear: I am not making any insinuations about guys who like the shaved look or women who do it. What I object to is the implication that there’s anything wrong, unhygenic or unfeminine about women if they _don’t_ do it. When I say it makes them look prepubescent, I’m sayiong to ME it makes them look prepubescent. The forum is IMHO. I did not make any comment about what it means if anyone else like it. I actually DON’T think guys like it because they’re pedos, I think they largely consist of a generation of males who have been conditioned to expect it because it’s so common in porn. That’s fine. whatever, but it isn’t becessary to imply that women who choose NOT to do it are dirty or slovenly or unfeminine. ---
**Author:** ![BigBertha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@BigBertha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigBertha)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-for-straight-men-about-vagina/547393/144 "2010-07-22T04:47:45Z")
> [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](#): > > All right, that’s IT! I’m turning this thread around and driving it over to Great Deb…ah, I can dream, can’t I? Great Deb is feminine, and hairy. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Understander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3da27b/32.png) [@The\_Understander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Understander)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-for-straight-men-about-vagina/547393/145 "2010-07-22T05:01:46Z")
Late to the party but my two cents regardless: 1. Why is a woman in her natural form less beautiful than a shaved, manicured form? It’s much the same way a good … upper hair …style is better than letting it go au naturel, for me. And in much the same way, for me anyway, having hair on the pussy is not a bad thing as long as it’s well-kept. 1. If your girlfriend/wife stopped shaving her armpit and vaginal area, would you be OK with that? Would it ever been an issue that could potentially collapse a relationship? Not my preference/yes/thankfully, it hasn’t come up. I’d like to think I’m not shallow enough to end a relationship over something so trivial. All the women I’ve ever been with have been religious about shaving their armpit hair–score one for societal norms!–so I haven’t had to make that choice. Not a fan of pit hair though, it just looks unattractive to me. 1. In your experience, does the vagina have odors that are similar but distinct among ethnic groups? (e.g. Does a black vagina smell different from a white pussy and does that smell different from an asian pussy or indian vagina, etc etc) Nope. 1. Does the vagina remain relatively taut post-pregnancy? Post-menopausal? Have you ever been able to just not reach climax due to vaginal looseness? Limited experience with women who have had children–in fact, just the one. But she didn’t feel any looser or tighter than any of my other girlfriends. 1. Does the consistency of a woman’s “climax” during orgasm ever drench a man’s penis similar to how the Japanese depict? Oh, yes. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-for-straight-men-about-vagina/547393/146 "2010-07-22T05:04:05Z")
> [@BigBertha](#): > > Great Deb is feminine, and hairy. That’s what makes her so Great. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-for-straight-men-about-vagina/547393/147 "2010-07-22T06:54:28Z")
1. Why is a woman in her natural form less beautiful than a shaved, manicured form? I’m not a big fan of the completely shaved. I like a nice beet “V”. It just looks prettier to me. 1. If your girlfriend/wife stopped shaving her armpit and vaginal area, would you be OK with that? Would it ever been an issue that could potentially collapse a relationship? No. And yes. Not shaving the armpits would be a bigger deal breaker. It also depends on the woman. I’ve date some that grew very little, very fine hair Some could get away with it more than others. 1. In your experience, does the vagina have odors that are similar but distinct among ethnic groups? (e.g. Does a black vagina smell different from a white pussy and does that smell different from an asian pussy or indian vagina, etc etc) I definitely notice different aromas among different women, but never saw a pattern. 1. Does the vagina remain relatively taut post-pregnancy? Post-menopausal? Have you ever been able to just not reach climax due to vaginal looseness? Not really. One woman was really lose, so I had to concentrate on moving the sensitive underside at her opening. 1. Does the consistency of a woman’s “climax” during orgasm ever drench a man’s penis similar to how the Japanese depict? I’ve never experienced a flood, but discharge, yes. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-for-straight-men-about-vagina/547393/148 "2010-07-22T06:54:40Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I am not the only one to have expressed these particular opinions in this thread, so why am I being singled out? Because you are the one who hijacked the thread to talk about it. And you are the one who has a habit of doing this, and people are getting tired of it, and thus starting to actually report you for it. (Not that I did, but I considered it.) And because you keep on saying your opinions are facts. That’s exactly what “should” guy got blasted for. But at least he admitted that his choice of words was not the best, and re-communicated his idea in a way that would not be misunderstood. You didn’t until smacked down by a mod. We’re so used to you making universal fact statements that we aren’t going to assume that you are just giving an opinion. ETA: OP: I also have been brought up to think of body hair as less feminine. It doesn’t really matter when I’m not trying to look at it (and I’ve never orally pleasured a woman\*), but I do feel the cultural implications. Plus, body hair is courser, and less comfortable. I recently discovered manscaping, and that even makes self-pleasuring feel better. I can’t really answer the rest of the questions. I’d guess #2 wouldn’t be that bad, and I’ve read that #5 is rare, and that the Japanese overemphasize it. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-for-straight-men-about-vagina/547393/149 "2010-07-22T07:05:00Z")
That asterisk on “woman” is so I don’t get people asking me if I’ve orally pleasured men, either. Of course not, but I understand it’s a different experience. BTW, to show that #1 does not make a woman unattractive: I know a Greek girl who is rather hairy in places that women I’ve met usually aren’t, and she’s really easy to crush on. Granted, I’ve tried to get her to shave, but that’s because, in my mind, it would serve to make her even more attractive. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-for-straight-men-about-vagina/547393/150 "2010-07-22T07:13:06Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Because you are the one who hijacked the thread to talk about it. To talk about what? I wasn’t the first to mention anything, and I didn’t hijack anything any more than those who decided to pile up on me. > [@](#): > > And you are the one who has a habit of doing this Doing what? Having an opinion? Posting facts?, > [@](#): > > and people are getting tired of it, and thus starting to actually report you for it. Report me for what? Disagreeing with you? What were you going to report me for that somebody else didn’t say first, and why didn’t you consider reporting them? I defy you to point to one post in this thread that actually violates a board rule. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-for-straight-men-about-vagina/547393/151 "2010-07-22T07:18:41Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > But anyway, you’re totally right, **Starving Artist**. Parts shouldn’t be used to refer to a whole, and a whole shouldn’t be used to refer to parts. I suppose in this case, people are using a “hole” to describe a “part”, eh? Even worse, they’re using an ‘inside part’ to describe an ‘outside whole’. Or to put it more succinctly, they’re calling a hole a whole. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-for-straight-men-about-vagina/547393/152 "2010-07-22T07:31:35Z")
I can’t believe I’m going to say this, but **Starving Artist** is right. I thought that was only supposed to happen on alternate leap years. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-for-straight-men-about-vagina/547393/153 "2010-07-22T08:05:23Z")
Nah, happens all the time, mon frere. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![SecondJudith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@SecondJudith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SecondJudith)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-for-straight-men-about-vagina/547393/154 "2010-07-22T08:20:38Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I want to make this clear: I am not making any insinuations about guys who like the shaved look or women who do it. What I object to is the implication that there’s anything wrong, unhygenic or unfeminine about women if they _don’t_ do it. FWIW I agree with **Dio** here. I find it really weird and a bit hurtful that so many blokes in this thread have been saying that adult women’s pubic hair is unfeminine. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Flipshod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f19dbf/32.png) [@Flipshod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flipshod)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-for-straight-men-about-vagina/547393/155 "2010-07-22T11:48:28Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Even worse, they’re using an ‘inside part’ to describe an ‘outside whole’. > > Or to put it more succinctly, they’re calling a hole a whole. 😉 Wouldn’t they be calling a whole a hole? ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-for-straight-men-about-vagina/547393/156 "2010-07-22T12:01:02Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > I completely agree with Dio on this. When I was 17, I had to have lower abdominal surgery. The initial shock of being shaved and looking like a child again was something I remember to this day. If you’re not used to your partner being shaven, then yes, it’s going to look pre-pubescent. In this case I don’t think he’s threadshitting. He’s giving his reason for why he feels this way. I think he’s being attacked on this because he’s Dio. Nope. I actually think bald pubes look kiddy. I’ve actually told the young man with whom I am having relations that I like hair on the nether regions. He stopped shaving to comply, as he really didn’t care either way; thought it was something other people liked, so he shaved in order to be presentable. Of course, they’re his damn man parts, so if he were to tell me he prefers being shaved, I wouldn’t have been all, “Oh hell no! It’s over!” but I do like hair down there, and I do think lack of hair looks kiddy. I don’t think, though, that pubic hair is feminine (or masculine). It’s human. Everyone has pubic hair, so I don’t see what’s so ladylike about it. It’s no more feminine than having eyebrows. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-for-straight-men-about-vagina/547393/157 "2010-07-22T12:27:45Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > That’s what makes her so Great. That and Vaginae. (By L’Oreal) $29.95 at MACYs _exclusively_ at Herald Square. Don’t miss out on MACYs special “Gift Days”… ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-for-straight-men-about-vagina/547393/158 "2010-07-22T12:50:31Z")
It just occurred to me. You gots yer shaved. You gots yer wild and free. You gots your trimmed and groomed. Different strokes for different folks and all that. But if you decide to quit shaving, you’ll have a period of time where you"ll have an odd 6 o’clock shadow thing going on. Seem’s a little weird to me, but whats ya gonna go? And I would assume there is some group out there that actually prefers that middle ground. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-for-straight-men-about-vagina/547393/159 "2010-07-22T13:21:54Z")
> [@Cosmic Relief](#): > > Well yeah, until you dig around and find a cock and balls in it. You won this thread so hard it hurts. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-for-straight-men-about-vagina/547393/160 "2010-07-22T14:08:58Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > It just occurred to me. You gots yer shaved. You gots yer wild and free. You gots your trimmed and groomed. Different strokes for different folks and all that. > > But if you decide to quit shaving, you’ll have a period of time where you"ll have an odd 6 o’clock shadow thing going on. Seem’s a little weird to me, but whats ya gonna go? And I would assume there is some group out there that actually prefers that middle ground. …but isn’t that middle ground the part where the hair has just grown back enough to not only rip the crap out of her thighs, but to buzz-saw through her partners face as well? (maybe that’ll teach 'em to bitch about her hair.)😉 But none of that matters. A few pages back a poster said it best: a lady styles her hair how she chooses. And lets face it, if you don’t want her jeans & panties on the floor next to your bed over her chosen hair style, then they sure as hell won’t be there for a lot of better reasons as well. Look, all I’m saying is that if you are Loved by someone enough that she’ll risk all her body insecurities to show you her hoo-ha, maybe you ought to consider yourself effing lucky, Man-Up & Deal no matter how she wears her hair. I don’t care if this violates the spirit of the thread… folks, your Lovers are People (well, for the most part; I won’t mention names), and you should treat them as People. And I find it disingenuous to talk about Lovers like Take-Out. The ‘Good’ chef wasn’t on? They skimped on the white rice? They never give you enough duck sauce? Then go someplace else. You’ll get what you want and it’ll free them up for people who’d be damn happy with them just as they are. [/soap box] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-for-straight-men-about-vagina/547393.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-for-straight-men-about-vagina/547393.md?page=9)