Questions on Christianity (Again...)

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Ultimately, an accetance of anything we do not know for sure invokes belief. The multiverse hypothesis requires belief. Belief based on reading and teaching.

You confuse the mind of God with the will of God.

All your are doing is demonstrating the baselessness of your argument; clearly abhorrence towards child abuse ISN’T some universal law.

It would seem rather obvious. God is seperate from the physical/natural universe. God is non-physical.

Humans could not DEVISE an objecctive moral law. That doesn’t mean we could not recognise one. See the difference?

On the contrary. Child abuse is wrong, any sane person will concur. It is your invoing of an evolutionary explanation that is baseless.

In the case of God, the question is answered by the notion that he is seperate to the constraints of the physical universe and therefore not bound by them.

On the other hand, anything within the physical universe IS bound by the laws of the universe. Despite the theorising, nothing physical that exists is uncaused, and there are very real logical problems with time being eternal (regressed).

No.

You’re vigorously trying to dodge the point, but I’m sticking with it. If we can recognize objective morality, we could devise an objective moral system just by asking ourselves what the objective right yes/no answer is for each situation.

  1. You’re not aware of the current state of quantum physics - current as in the last 40 or 50 years. Events without causes most certainly happen.

  2. What, pray tell, are the “very real” logical problems with time being eternal (regressed)? You’re not going to pull out that old notion that “if time has been around infinitely long, then we couldn’t have gotten to this point” are you?

Look at the animals who protect their young. Not every species is evolved the same way.

Prove that “morality” exists outside of human thought.

Let see Jastrow’s prrof for a magic sky fairy. I’m not interested in his personal beliefs or assertions.

Yes, Flew was convinced by bogus ID arguments. Flew is a philosopher, not a scientist and didn’t recognize phony science when he saw it. Just so you know, there is no evidence of “design” in DNA. Sorry. If you beg to differ then show what the actual evidence is.

What makes you think you know the will of God? Isn’t that rather arrogant on your part? Didn’t the 9/11 hijackers also think they were doing God’s will? How do you know they weren’t?

How is this any different from saying God is non-existent?

Humans have never recognized any such thing.

Are you saying you don’t see the difference between devising and recognising? And what is an ‘objective yes/no answer for each situation’? Think about it.

  1. You’re not aware of the current state of quantum physics - current as in the last 40 or 50 years. Events without causes most certainly happen.

  2. What, pray tell, are the “very real” logical problems with time being eternal (regressed)? You’re not going to pull out that old notion that “if time has been around infinitely long, then we couldn’t have gotten to this point” are you?
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1> I am well aware of current quantum physics. Events without causes don’t happen. Further events that have no ‘state’ in which to occurr don’t happen, so the spontaneous arrival of life has more than one problem.

2> Infinite regression

You digress. The abhorrence of child abuse was explained as an evolutionary response to self preservation. This is absurd. Many species harm their young, including humans. Yet we somehow know it to be wrong.

Reread the list of names I gave. It is long and gets longer. These are astrophysicists, physicists, mathematicians, astronomers…

Vera Kistiakowsky, Frank Tipler, Alexander Polyakov, Ed Harrison…

You mean you cannot grasp the concept of anything outside the physical universe?

Is child abuse wrong?

Is it always wrong, under any circumstances?

There’s a difference between being outside our physical universe and being non-physical.