# Questions regarding National Conventions and the American electoral process. **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [February 27, 2016, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-regarding-national-conventions-and-the-american-electoral-process/747296 "2016-02-27T15:29:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Alley\_Dweller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alley_dweller/32/430_2.png) [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2016, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-regarding-national-conventions-and-the-american-electoral-process/747296/21 "2016-02-29T08:17:08Z")
> [@md2000](#): > > there were a few people who have done so. IIRC, some congress or senate candidate last election barely lost his nomination to a Tea Party surge and ran as an independent against that TP guy. Usually a situation like this splits the vote, so the other guy gets in. In 2010. Republican Senator Lisa Murkowski of Alaska lost the primary to a TP candidate. She then ran a write-in campaign in the general election and actually won. She is still a loyal Republican. On the Democratic side, the 2000 candidate for Vice President was Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman. When he ran for reelection to the Senate in 2006, he was defeated in the Democratic primary. But he ran in the general election as a candidate of the “Connecticut for Lieberman” party. He won. In 2008, he went on to give a speech at the Republican National Convention endorsing John McCain for president. He continued to serve in the Senate as an “independent Democrat” until he retired in 2013. Note that a number of states have “sore loser” laws. Generally, these laws prohibit anyone who ran in a primary and lost from running in the general election. It is not clear whether a state can apply its sore loser laws to presidential elections. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2016, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-regarding-national-conventions-and-the-american-electoral-process/747296/22 "2016-02-29T15:38:58Z")
> [@davidmich](#): > > 1. Party nominees don’t necessarily win general elections. The losers in the nominee race will compete in the general election anyway. So why bother having a nominee in the first place. No, the losers don’t compete in the general election, not with their party’s label anyway. They could run as independents, but that’s much harder and they are very unlikely to win, which is why they run for the nomination in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2016, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-regarding-national-conventions-and-the-american-electoral-process/747296/23 "2016-02-29T23:30:28Z")
> [@Flyer](#): > > Think much more local than that–for example, people who volunteer for the local county office of their chosen party. Another example–precinct leaders, who often help with persuading people to get out and vote in the general election. (For comparison, my county has 242 precincts.) > > The caucus process is politics at its most local, grassroots-iest level possible. Delegates are on the ballot for particular candidates (or behind the ballot, perhaps.) If the local leaders back the establishment candidate, say, and the insurgent wins, they won’t be going to the convention. Thus superdelegates, who are assured a seat. When I was in college a friend of mine, more or less as a class project, ran as a McGovern delegate, won, and went to the 1972 convention. His parents were active in local Democratic politics so it was not totally random, but he certainly had no major qualifications besides being above voting age. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-regarding-national-conventions-and-the-american-electoral-process/747296.md?page=1)