# Quick, Giraffe, before some asshole locks this.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-giraffe-before-some-asshole-locks-this/481949>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 19, 2009, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-giraffe-before-some-asshole-locks-this/481949 "2009-01-19T05:36:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-giraffe-before-some-asshole-locks-this/481949/41 "2009-01-20T03:20:25Z")

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> [@Alex\_Dubinsky](#):
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> Besides all that’s been said, I’m still having a little trouble with the core reasoning…
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> It looked like we might want to ban him later, so we banned him? And you can’t discuss the decision on ATMB?
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> Kind of like the people sent to Guantanamo, no?
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> Ok, just go ahead say it: This is not a democracy; There is no due process; You do whatever you want to do, cuz it’s just a message board.

Yeah,

I generally totally kiss up to the mods 😉 but I think some formalities need to be spelled out and followed concerning cases like this. The slippery slope here starts to get just slightly too slippery for comfortable walking.

-FrL-

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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-giraffe-before-some-asshole-locks-this/481949/42 "2009-01-20T03:21:25Z")

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Huh, I just noticed.

It was a preemptive banning performed inside a preemptive pitting!

-FrL-

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-giraffe-before-some-asshole-locks-this/481949/43 "2009-01-20T03:26:33Z")

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> [@Frylock](#):
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> I’m not sure why **Giraffe** decided to immediately ban the poster, instead of leaving his warning as a warning and then banning him next time.

Because the decision had already been made, and **Giraffe** presumably didn’t feel like singlehandedly overriding it.

> [@Alex\_Dubinsky](#):
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> It looked like we might want to ban him later, so we banned him?

That’s a frightening train of logic, I agree. Except it isn’t what **Giraffe** actually said. 😉

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> And you can’t discuss the decision on ATMB?

That thread got locked because the question was answered, not because it “can’t be discussed.”

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-giraffe-before-some-asshole-locks-this/481949/44 "2009-01-20T03:27:31Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> That thread got locked because the question was answered, not because it “can’t be discussed.”

Okay, that’s officially retarded.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-giraffe-before-some-asshole-locks-this/481949/45 "2009-01-20T03:32:10Z")

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> [@Q.E.D](#):
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> Okay, that’s officially retarded.

Why?

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-giraffe-before-some-asshole-locks-this/481949/46 "2009-01-20T03:37:58Z")

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Do I _really_ need to explain to you why locking a thread which is in absolutely no danger of becoming problematic and which you freely admit concerns a valid topic for discussion is stupid? You sure you want to go there?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-giraffe-before-some-asshole-locks-this/481949/47 "2009-01-20T03:44:37Z")

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> [@Q.E.D](#):
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> Do I _really_ need to explain to you why locking a thread which is in absolutely no danger of becoming problematic and which you freely admit concerns a valid topic for discussion is stupid?

How could I stop you from enlightening us once again, even if I wanted to? No, you don’t _need_ to explain: for one thing it’s already clear that not everybody’s questions were answered. For another, I don’t need you to explain anything, just as a general rule.

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-giraffe-before-some-asshole-locks-this/481949/48 "2009-01-20T03:49:11Z")

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> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> Furthermore, I hate banning folks all the damn time. Oh my god. This place is losing more flavor everytime I turn around.

So, quit turning around, already. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-giraffe-before-some-asshole-locks-this/481949/49 "2009-01-20T04:34:42Z")

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> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> Oh my god. This place is losing more flavor everytime I turn around.

You may be surprised to know that it has been going precipitously downhill since long before you joined, lo those 22 long months ago. In my personal experience, it has been going downhill at an ever accelerating clip ever since I joined in 2000. And I am sure it was declining even before that, since it’s inception in 1999. And from what I understand, that was far inferior to the AOL board.

Stick around. I’m sure you’ll find that the quality will continue to decrease. It always does.

Man, though, you should have been here in 2000. It was like frikkin Willie Wonka’s back then.

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-giraffe-before-some-asshole-locks-this/481949/50 "2009-01-20T04:46:35Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> You may be surprised to know that it has been going precipitously downhill since long before you joined, lo those 22 long months ago. In my personal experience, it has been going downhill at an ever accelerating clip ever since I joined in 2000. And I am sure it was declining even before that, since it’s inception in 1999. And from what I understand, that was far inferior to the AOL board.

The awesomeness of the AOL board has been exaggerated. It was already going downhill, or so I understand, when I first started posting to it in 1997.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-giraffe-before-some-asshole-locks-this/481949/51 "2009-01-20T06:28:32Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> \<snip\>  
> Man, though, you should have been here in 2000. It was like frikkin Willie Wonka’s back then.

Friggin’ Oompa Loompas everywhere.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-giraffe-before-some-asshole-locks-this/481949/52 "2009-01-20T07:44:34Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Man, though, you should have been here in 2000. It was like frikkin Willie Wonka’s back then.

Wolper or Burton?

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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-giraffe-before-some-asshole-locks-this/481949/53 "2009-01-20T13:06:50Z")

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> [@Kyla](#):
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> The awesomeness of the AOL board has been exaggerated. It was already going downhill, or so I understand, when I first started posting to it in 1997.

The first day on the AOL board, as I understand it, was awesome!!! Everything since then has been a diminishing shadow of itself.

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**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-giraffe-before-some-asshole-locks-this/481949/54 "2009-01-20T13:24:43Z")

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> [@Alex\_Dubinsky](#):
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> It looked like we might want to ban him later, so we banned him? And you can’t discuss the decision on ATMB?

Disregarding the banning himself, the locking of the ATMB threads is a different story. ATMB threads get locked too early all the time. I have never understood that. In most cases, it is the newer mods desperate for the approval of their flame and being more popist that the Pope. This always results in a second thread where what was a simple question drags into the usual snipe-the-administration repeat-o-rama. Will they ever learn?

> [@Marley23](#):
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> That thread got locked because the question was answered, not because it “can’t be discussed.”

Except that it was not, as you yourself admitted 18 minutes later. When in doubt, don’t lock. It takes even less effort than locking. See? Just now while typing this, I didn’t lock the thread. And I was even drinking juice at the same time.

> [@Colibri](#):
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> You may be surprised to know that it has been going precipitously downhill since long before you joined, lo those 22 long months ago. In my personal experience, it has been going downhill at an ever accelerating clip ever since I joined in 2000. And I am sure it was declining even before that, since it’s inception in 1999. And from what I understand, that was far inferior to the AOL board.
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> Stick around. I’m sure you’ll find that the quality will continue to decrease. It always does.
> 
> Man, though, you should have been here in 2000. It was like frikkin Willie Wonka’s back then.

You may have meant this as a joke, but had it not been for that last sentence, it sounded much like a sad and serious assessment of what is going on.

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-giraffe-before-some-asshole-locks-this/481949/55 "2009-01-20T14:52:33Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> You may be surprised to know that it has been going precipitously downhill since long before you joined, lo those 22 long months ago. In my personal experience, it has been going downhill at an ever accelerating clip ever since I joined in 2000. And I am sure it was declining even before that, since it’s inception in 1999. And from what I understand, that was far inferior to the AOL board.
> 
> Stick around. I’m sure you’ll find that the quality will continue to decrease. It always does.
> 
> Man, though, you should have been here in 2000. It was like frikkin Willie Wonka’s back then.

Well…I didn’t actually mean to indicate that I feel this place is going downhill. The truth is, I love this board. But I do hate seeing interesting posters banned.

Samclem, very funny.

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-giraffe-before-some-asshole-locks-this/481949/56 "2009-01-20T14:52:36Z")

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> [@Sapo](#):
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> See? Just now while typing this, I didn’t lock the thread. And I was even drinking juice at the same time.

Amateur. I can not lock thread while juggling flaming tennis balls and reciting the three words ending with -gry. On a treadmill.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-giraffe-before-some-asshole-locks-this/481949/57 "2009-01-20T14:52:50Z")

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> [@featherlou](#):
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> Friggin’ Oompa Loompas everywhere.

**jessesheeran** , last of the Oompa Loompas. It will be a long time before we see his like again.

Maybe tomorrow, maybe Thursday.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-giraffe-before-some-asshole-locks-this/481949/58 "2009-01-20T15:02:44Z")

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> [@Sapo](#):
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> Except that it was not, as you yourself admitted 18 minutes later. When in doubt, don’t lock. It takes even less effort than locking.

Yes, granted. We’re a little too quick to assume people’s questions have been answered sometimes.

> [@Colibri](#):
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> **jessesheeran** , last of the Oompa Loompas. It will be a long time before we see his like again.

We almost saw his like twice last night. 😛

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-giraffe-before-some-asshole-locks-this/481949/59 "2009-01-20T16:04:26Z")

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> [@Alex\_Dubinsky](#):
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> Kind of like the people sent to Guantanamo, no?

I find that browsing the SDMB involves somewhat less genital torture, but otherwise, yeah, our experience here is very much like Guantanamo.

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**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-giraffe-before-some-asshole-locks-this/481949/60 "2009-01-20T16:15:41Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> I find that browsing the SDMB involves somewhat less genital torture

You obviously haven’t tried to debate Scylla.

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