# Quick US Geography Opinion ( pad your post count )

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-us-geography-opinion-pad-your-post-count/25428>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [July 13, 2000, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-us-geography-opinion-pad-your-post-count/25428 "2000-07-13T13:51:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2000, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-us-geography-opinion-pad-your-post-count/25428/41 "2000-07-14T00:16:11Z")

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> Should New York and Maryland be categorized together?

God help us. Keep that big city shit as far from me as you can.

Baltimore and Annapolis are northern cities, but once you get south of Annapolis you’re pretty much in the south. Judgement made in Crownsville, Maryland (a couple of miles northwest of Annapolis).

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**Author:** ![Byzantine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dfb087/32.png) [@Byzantine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Byzantine)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2000, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-us-geography-opinion-pad-your-post-count/25428/42 "2000-07-14T00:20:56Z")

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It’s in North America and that’s about as close as I can get!

Utah (that explains it, doesn’t it?)

Byz,  
Who could probably find the US on a map. Maybe. If the names were on everything!

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**Author:** ![Lsura](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7993a0/32.png) [@Lsura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lsura)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2000, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-us-geography-opinion-pad-your-post-count/25428/43 "2000-07-14T00:21:25Z")

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Maryland is North and full of those awful yankees 😉  
I’m in GA right now and have lived most of my life in the South. TN, MS GA… except for college in Maine.

-Lsura

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**Author:** ![Rysdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7cd45c/32.png) [@Rysdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysdad)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2000, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-us-geography-opinion-pad-your-post-count/25428/44 "2000-07-14T01:56:54Z")

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Maryland is a suburb of the Boston-Washington Megalopolis.

It’s got crabs.

I’m from Minnesota.

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**Author:** ![Philbuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9a140/32.png) [@Philbuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Philbuck)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2000, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-us-geography-opinion-pad-your-post-count/25428/45 "2000-07-14T02:03:19Z")

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From experiences with a friend of mine from Maryland, it’s most definitely in the North.

(I’m a Texan, going to school in western PA)

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**Author:** ![Gunslinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gunslinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gunslinger)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2000, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-us-geography-opinion-pad-your-post-count/25428/46 "2000-07-14T03:42:35Z")

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Y’damn Yankees! Trying to blame Maryland on us…:rolleyes:  
So far, the Yankees mostly say it’s South, and the Southerners (myself included) say it’s in the north. Apparently _nobody_ wants Maryland.

I’m from Texas.

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**Author:** ![BrothaTJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d07c76/32.png) [@BrothaTJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrothaTJ)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2000, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-us-geography-opinion-pad-your-post-count/25428/47 "2000-07-14T05:40:37Z")

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I think of Maryland as a Mid-Atlantic state. Well actually, I never think about Maryland at all. Ever. Until now. Do they have anything important in Maryland? Maybe I should be thinking about that state more often.  
Anyhoo, as far as N/S goes, I think of Maryland as bein with the south.  
I’m from Chicago, no identity crisis here.

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**Author:** ![2sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/e47774/32.png) [@2sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2sense)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2000, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-us-geography-opinion-pad-your-post-count/25428/48 "2000-07-14T06:21:09Z")

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OK, it looks like I was being hasty in generalizing that people think of Maryland as the South. My idea was that it was a slaveholding state and hence southern. And yes, I am aware that slavery used to exist in the North as well.

As for me, I don’t consider any state to be Mid-Atlantic. As far as I was concerned “Mid-Atlantic” was a college basketball conference and nothing more.

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**Author:** ![Boris\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/fbc32d/32.png) [@Boris\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boris_B)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2000, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-us-geography-opinion-pad-your-post-count/25428/49 "2000-07-14T06:50:17Z")

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I’d call it Middle Atlantic.

I’m from Oregon.

To me, the South includes the 11 states that seceded, no more, no less. So Puerto Rico isn’t South. No silly, I wasn’t saying it is a state, I was just saying it isn’t South. It is definitely south however.

It’s funny, reading that. I am realizing that almost no one I work with would understand what I am getting at, since none of them recognize the existence of capital letters at all.

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**Author:** ![TheThill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@TheThill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheThill)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2000, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-us-geography-opinion-pad-your-post-count/25428/50 "2000-07-14T10:02:46Z")

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Well culturally, southern Florida is now practically part of the North. Of course, thousands of “real” Floridians would beg to differ, but try finding someone with a drawl in Ft. Lauderdale!

Yes I know, the next person to post will be someone with a drawl from Ft. Lauderdale, but you get my point!

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**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2000, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-us-geography-opinion-pad-your-post-count/25428/51 "2000-07-14T10:29:35Z")

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I always thought of it as “the East”. Meaning, it’s on the East Coast, and isn’t an obviously Southern state like Georgia or South Carolina or something.

Never really thought about Maryland too much, to be honest.

I was discussing this with a friend from the South. (Long conversation…don’t ask.) I tried to tell him, hinted to him, that we Californians don’t really think too hard about the states _waaaay_ over there on the East Coast. At least I don’t. I vaguely lump areas of the US thus:

Southwest: New Mexico, Arizona, etc. These areas are more “real” to me, since I have visited them often.  
Pacific Northwest: Oregon, Washington  
Midwest: Farm areas - Kansas, Nebraska, Ohio, Iowa, etc.  
Chicago (it gets it’s own category.)  
Texas (it gets it’s own category)  
South: Alabama, Georgia, Lousiana (States that end with an “a” and are South, and are East of California, on the other Coast.)  
New England: Maine, Mass. etc. Way up North and East of California.  
New York (get’s it’s own category)  
Those Pretty Mountain Areas: Colorado, Montana, Wyoming

And so on. Maryland is just in the East, as far as I’m concerned.

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**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2000, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-us-geography-opinion-pad-your-post-count/25428/52 "2000-07-14T10:36:35Z")

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I like to think of it a Eastern Seaboard. Actually I just like the word “seaboard”. And it seems appropriate, even though it doesn’t for New Jersy, where I grew up. (And which, when I was growing up I thought of as “Unfortunatly not New York”.)

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\*Originally posted by BrothaTJ \*  
**I think of Maryland as a Mid-Atlantic state. Well actually, I never think about Maryland at all. Ever. Until now. Do they have anything important in Maryland?**

Well…crabs, John Waters and “Homicide”. And homicide. That’s all I know about it. And that it’s more Southern than New Jersy.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2000, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-us-geography-opinion-pad-your-post-count/25428/53 "2000-07-14T19:33:48Z")

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Hey, I see some state mottos/bumperstickers here:  
‘Maryland. We got crabs.’  
‘Maryland. At least _we_ know where we are.’  
‘Maryland. Blink and you’ve just driven through it.’  
-Applies to most of the East, actually.  
‘Maryland. We’re sorry about DC. Really.’  
Hey, a set:  
‘Maryland. You know, north of all those Rebs.’  
OR  
‘Maryland. You know, south of all those Yanks.’  
-Use both. Confuse people.  
‘Maryland. As hot as Georgia, as liberal as DC.’  
-It’d scare me off.  
‘Maryland. Too small to split, too big to pave over in a day.’  
Think of your own! 😃

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**Author:** ![chief](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df788c/32.png) [@chief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chief)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2000, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-us-geography-opinion-pad-your-post-count/25428/54 "2000-07-14T20:20:48Z")

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its in the middle part of the east coast

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**Author:** ![Montfort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Montfort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Montfort)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2000, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-us-geography-opinion-pad-your-post-count/25428/55 "2000-07-15T00:32:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Derleth \*  
> **Hey, I see some state mottos/bumperstickers here:  
> 'Maryland. As hot as Georgia, as liberal as DC.'**

Actually, Maryland’s as liberal as Massachusetts (our Lt. Governor is RFK’s daughter, which might have something to do with it). Of course, that’s fine by me.

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**Author:** ![Montfort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Montfort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Montfort)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2000, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-us-geography-opinion-pad-your-post-count/25428/56 "2000-07-15T00:36:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by TheThill \*  
> \*\*Well culturally, southern Florida is now practically part of the North. Of course, thousands of “real” Floridians would beg to differ, but try finding someone with a drawl in Ft. Lauderdale!
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> Yes I know, the next person to post will be someone with a drawl from Ft. Lauderdale, but you get my point! \*\*

Okay, I live in Maryland now, which qualifies my above posts, but I grew up in Ft. Lauderdale (Plantation, for SoFla dopers). The breakdown in SoFla is:

50% Cuban immigrants waiting to go home when Castro’s gone  
25% NY refugees and other migrants from northern states  
15% ‘Native’ Floridians who have the aforementioned drawl  
9% Other Carribean-originating folk  
1% Native American (Seminole and Miccousoukee)

In Broward County (Ft. Lauderdale) the first two ratios are more like 40%/35%, but for the most part, my estimates are accurate from WPB down.

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**Author:** ![capacitor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e47774/32.png) [@capacitor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capacitor)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2000, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-us-geography-opinion-pad-your-post-count/25428/57 "2000-07-15T03:44:31Z")

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In the NCAA tournaments, games played in Maryland are played in the East bracket.

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**Author:** ![Falcon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/49beb7/32.png) [@Falcon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Falcon)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2000, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-us-geography-opinion-pad-your-post-count/25428/58 "2000-07-15T03:58:10Z")

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How the HELL did I not know about this thread?

FTR, my credentials: grew up in Annapolis, went to college in Virginia, currently live in Silver Spring.

As for is Maryland the South? Depends on where you are. Annapolis and further south? Yes. Eastern Shore? Yes. Baltimore is the North, and western Maryland is Appalachia.

Where I live now (Montgomery County, and PG County, to an extent), are like NoVa. Not the south, just a suburb.

(Good enough answer, Mynd?) 🙂

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**Author:** ![Kiva](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d78d45/32.png) [@Kiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiva)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2000, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-us-geography-opinion-pad-your-post-count/25428/59 "2000-07-16T02:51:08Z")

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That’s where the Orioles play.  
Oh yeah, it’s somewhere in the east.  
But baseball orientation is really all that matters.

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**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2000, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quick-us-geography-opinion-pad-your-post-count/25428/60 "2000-07-16T03:22:54Z")

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Maryland is most definitely in the South.

I know this because I’m from Canada so **everything** else is in the South.

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