# Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch in the New Avengers film **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 22, 2013, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quicksilver-and-scarlet-witch-in-the-new-avengers-film/664237 "2013-07-22T19:16:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2013, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quicksilver-and-scarlet-witch-in-the-new-avengers-film/664237/41 "2013-07-24T20:12:28Z")
Eliza Dushku? ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2013, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quicksilver-and-scarlet-witch-in-the-new-avengers-film/664237/42 "2013-07-24T20:21:02Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Eliza Dushku? yeah - thats the one - ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quicksilver-and-scarlet-witch-in-the-new-avengers-film/664237/43 "2013-07-25T05:08:09Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > Wrong member of the Whedon company. Summer Glau is the one who’s feet refuse to wear shoes. Really? I thought she was a trained dancer, so her feet should look pretty horrible. Is that that chick thing “Oh, I hate how this looks/feels/etc!” while doing it constantly? > [@RikWriter](#): > > I would dearly love if Summer Glau played the Scarlet Witch. > [@simster](#): > > I wouldn’t - too young and teenagery for the part (In my mind) - of the Whedon crew, Amy Acker seems pretty close (if she changes her hair color) Adjust your mind - Glau’s 30 as of yesterday. Though I don’t see her playing Scarlet Witch either. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quicksilver-and-scarlet-witch-in-the-new-avengers-film/664237/44 "2013-07-25T05:49:15Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > Since Joss is writing it, she will probably have a better role than mere eye candy. Yes, she’ll start out weak and vulnerable, and then perhaps get knocked in the head and turn ultimate badass, suddenly able to eradicate all the bad guys with a shrug of her shoulders. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quicksilver-and-scarlet-witch-in-the-new-avengers-film/664237/45 "2013-07-25T06:55:32Z")
> [@simster](#): > > I wouldn’t - too young and teenagery for the part (In my mind) - of the Whedon crew, Amy Acker seems pretty close (if she changes her hair color) To what? The Scarlet Witch may dress in red, but in the pictures I can find, she’s a brunette. Not that there can be too many redheads in a movie, but with Pepper Potts and Black Widow already, another one would blow that “blonde, brunette, redhead” trope all to hell. ---
**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quicksilver-and-scarlet-witch-in-the-new-avengers-film/664237/46 "2013-07-25T11:18:14Z")
To be fair, the X-Men franchise has been teasing Quicksilver from the start among the school’s students. His name appears in one of the first two and he actually shows up for a couple of seconds in the third. It’s not like Fox is cynically trying to beat Marvel at its game or something. Quicksilver in the X-franchise has been in the works from the beginning before Marvel Studios was even a thing. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quicksilver-and-scarlet-witch-in-the-new-avengers-film/664237/47 "2013-07-25T13:02:59Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > To what? The Scarlet Witch may dress in red, but in the pictures I can find, she’s a brunette. > > Not that there can be too many redheads in a movie, but with Pepper Potts and Black Widow already, another one would blow that “blonde, brunette, redhead” trope all to hell. might be because the last time I saw Acker in a show, she played a blond (was that Grimm ?) Brunette is fine. As to Summer being 30 - damn - now I do feel old - I guess its not her actual age - but what I associate her with in the roles she’s played. ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quicksilver-and-scarlet-witch-in-the-new-avengers-film/664237/48 "2013-07-25T13:46:52Z")
> [@simster](#): > > might be because the last time I saw Acker in a show, she played a blond (was that Grimm ?) Brunette is fine. I didn’t know she’d done an ep of Grimm, but I gave up on the show a few eps in. Acker is doing a good turn as the arch-nemesis on _Person of Interest_, a psychopathic hacker who calls herself Root. ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quicksilver-and-scarlet-witch-in-the-new-avengers-film/664237/49 "2013-07-25T15:44:07Z")
> [@planetcory](#): > > To be fair, the X-Men franchise has been teasing Quicksilver from the start among the school’s students. His name appears in one of the first two and he actually shows up for a couple of seconds in the third. > > It’s not like Fox is cynically trying to beat Marvel at its game or something. Quicksilver in the X-franchise has been in the works from the beginning before Marvel Studios was even a thing. The three different X-men directors have just thrown stuff at the wall to see what sticks. Between the first two, third, and First Class there is a veneer of continuity - nothing more. It is a shoddily executed franchise, much like the 80s and 90s Batman movies with regards to how disconnected one movie is to the next - only with more consistent casting (better contracts). The general audience will not care about the two sets of heroes. And the Avengers sequel will outshine the next X-men movie by far in both box office and pop culture. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quicksilver-and-scarlet-witch-in-the-new-avengers-film/664237/50 "2013-07-25T16:09:04Z")
> [@epbrown01](#): > > I didn’t know she’d done an ep of Grimm, but I gave up on the show a few eps in. Acker is doing a good turn as the arch-nemesis on _Person of Interest_, a psychopathic hacker who calls herself Root. I saw her in that POI show - that was about the time I quit watching that - [Google Image link for Amy Acker Grimm](https://www.google.com/search?q=amy+acker+grimm&client=firefox-a&hs=cDk&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=5EzxUbavLcTCywHC1oDIAQ&ved=0CDkQsAQ&biw=1183&bih=663) ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quicksilver-and-scarlet-witch-in-the-new-avengers-film/664237/51 "2013-07-25T16:40:19Z")
I htink I now know what I’ve done - I’ve confused Jewel Staite (kaylee) in my head - She recently appeared in a scifi ‘b’ movie as a blonde and it was very confusing - Either Amy Acker or Jewel Staite would do an excellent job for Scarlet Witch in my book. ---
**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quicksilver-and-scarlet-witch-in-the-new-avengers-film/664237/52 "2013-07-25T16:40:47Z")
> [@drastic\_quench](#): > > The three different X-men directors have just thrown stuff at the wall to see what sticks. Between the first two, third, and First Class there is a veneer of continuity - nothing more. It is a shoddily executed franchise, much like the 80s and 90s Batman movies with regards to how disconnected one movie is to the next - only with more consistent casting (better contracts). > > The general audience will not care about the two sets of heroes. And the Avengers sequel will outshine the next X-men movie by far in both box office and pop culture. I prefer the X-franchise over the Marvel stuff myself, but I agree. Nobody’s going to care. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quicksilver-and-scarlet-witch-in-the-new-avengers-film/664237/53 "2013-07-25T22:22:02Z")
> [@planetcory](#): > > To be fair, the X-Men franchise has been teasing Quicksilver from the start among the school’s students. His name appears in one of the first two and he actually shows up for a couple of seconds in the third. > > It’s not like Fox is cynically trying to beat Marvel at its game or something. Quicksilver in the X-franchise has been in the works from the beginning before Marvel Studios was even a thing. Emmm.. I don’t he’s shown in the third, but he does appear in Wolverine: Origins. There’s little doubt who the white haired speedster kid being held with the other young mutants could be. ---
**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quicksilver-and-scarlet-witch-in-the-new-avengers-film/664237/54 "2013-07-25T22:39:21Z")
> [@Push\_You\_Down](#): > > Emmm.. I don’t he’s shown in the third, but he does appear in Wolverine: Origins. There’s little doubt who the white haired speedster kid being held with the other young mutants could be. Yeah, I wasn’t entirely certain about exactly which movies those things happened in, so I tried to recall from memory. Which is weird because Wolverine: Origins is the only one I’ve never seen. ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2013, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quicksilver-and-scarlet-witch-in-the-new-avengers-film/664237/55 "2013-07-27T12:11:26Z")
> [@Bakhesh](#): > > Some of the deals that Marvel struck seem incredibly open. Fox bought ALL mutants? And the FF license includes any character that ever appeared in the FF (such as the Surfer or the Skrulls)? Sooner or later, some Hollywood lawyers are going to make a LOT of money out of these contracts. I think the deal is that a studio buys a franchise and gets all the characters primarily associated with that franchise. Believe it or not, that makes Sub-Mariner part of the FF franchise. Less clear is how that makes Kingpin part of the Daredevil universe (which I think Marvel has re-acquired by now); if he appears in a Spider-Man movie, they’ll probably have to call him “The Big Man” or something similar. > [@](#): > > Can’t we organise a fan campaign to boycott Fox and Sony movies until they at least play ball with Marvel? Fox seems to be the worst offender. They decided to make a new FF film just so they could hold on to the rights (and lets face it, its going to be a massive flop). They are also doing their best to make sure that Xmen continuity doesn’t make a lick of sense. I think it’s a mistake to show “fan loyalty” to one movie studio over another. If Disney/Marvel looks like it’s being victimized by dick moves from other studios, both entities are guilty of the same thing (Google “Marvelman” or “Air Pirates” if this sounds unlikely to you). Sony should hold the Spider-Man license for as long as they’re able to make a decent Spider-Man movie every three years, and Fox, X-Men/Wolverine films. I mean, is a big-screen Spidey/Torch or Cap/Wolverine team-up really that big a draw for you? ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2013, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quicksilver-and-scarlet-witch-in-the-new-avengers-film/664237/56 "2013-07-27T14:40:21Z")
> [@Bakhesh](#): > > Can’t we organise a fan campaign to boycott Fox and Sony movies until they at least play ball with Marvel? Comic book fans aren’t the market for the films, so there’s no reason to listen to them. The general public is the market and while they vaguely remember the characters they aren’t troubled by the minutae that the comic fans would see as huge inconsistencies. ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2013, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quicksilver-and-scarlet-witch-in-the-new-avengers-film/664237/57 "2013-07-27T15:56:32Z")
I could see Disney writing a couple fat checks to get Spider-Man and Wolverine in Avengers 3. It would be a huge deal, and I’m guessing the box office would more than make up for the expense. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2013, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quicksilver-and-scarlet-witch-in-the-new-avengers-film/664237/58 "2013-07-29T17:26:40Z")
> [@drastic\_quench](#): > > I could see Disney writing a couple fat checks to get Spider-Man and Wolverine in Avengers 3. It would be a huge deal, and I’m guessing the box office would more than make up for the expense. This is a huge “WTF” for me. I find it hard to believe there are significant 1000s of people who would only see an Avengers movie if it had Spiderman or Wolverine in it. That’s really what this idea boils down to–the belief that the general audience fanbase for these movies is divided and somehow more money would be generated somehow by adding these characters to it. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2013, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quicksilver-and-scarlet-witch-in-the-new-avengers-film/664237/59 "2013-07-29T17:33:26Z")
> [@Push\_You\_Down](#): > > This is a huge “WTF” for me. I find it hard to believe there are significant 1000s of people who would only see an Avengers movie if it had Spiderman or Wolverine in it. That’s really what this idea boils down to–the belief that the general audience fanbase for these movies is divided and somehow more money would be generated somehow by adding these characters to it. yeah - in fact, it would detract from it - it was a very delicate balancing act that Joss Whedon pulled off in The Avengers as it is - adding two more ‘headliners’ would make that damn near impossible - imagine the snark fest between Stark and Parker… ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2013, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quicksilver-and-scarlet-witch-in-the-new-avengers-film/664237/60 "2013-07-29T17:45:47Z")
Besides, I doubt that to the average movigoer, Wolverine, Spiderman, and the Avengers really ‘happen’ in the same universe—it’d be like suddenly having James Bond show up. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quicksilver-and-scarlet-witch-in-the-new-avengers-film/664237.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quicksilver-and-scarlet-witch-in-the-new-avengers-film/664237.md?page=4)