# "Quine" this **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 15, 2008, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quine-this/452996 "2008-06-15T10:58:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2008, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quine-this/452996/21 "2008-06-16T22:45:07Z")
“Sez who?” sez who. ---
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2008, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quine-this/452996/22 "2008-06-16T22:45:54Z")
[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers] Yes, it is. Look closer. I’m assuming we’re flexible on matters of puncutation. [/QUOTE] My bad – I did miss that. I’ll leave the punctuation judgment call to others. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2008, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quine-this/452996/23 "2008-06-16T22:48:14Z")
[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers] Yes, it is. Look closer. I’m assuming we’re flexible on matters of puncutation. [/QUOTE] It’s the punctuation that makes it a sentence fragment, isn’t it? According to the OP, the two fragments have to be identical. ---
**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2008, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quine-this/452996/24 "2008-06-16T23:00:23Z")
While I’m at it with the boring, routine stuff: “when appended to its own quotation forms a sentence which **Victim’s Name Here** doesn’t think is true” when appended to its own quotation forms a sentence which **Victim’s Name Here** doesn’t think is true I can correctly think or not think this sentence is true, and so can you, and everyone else in the world, except for poor **Victim’s Name Here** ; whatever they do, they’ll get it wrong. [But for the rest of us, it’s easy; just take the opposite position from **VNH** , of course] ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2008, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quine-this/452996/25 "2008-06-16T23:13:17Z")
‘Is a sentence fragment’ is a sentence fragment. ‘Isn’t a complete thought’ isn’t a complete thought. What do you mean by ‘what do you mean by’? How do you say ‘how do you say’? ‘Would make a crappy title for a story’ would make a crappy title for a story. ‘Could be clearer’ could be clearer. ---
**Author:** ![tanstaafl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba8739/32.png) [@tanstaafl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanstaafl)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2008, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quine-this/452996/26 "2008-06-16T23:28:32Z")
“Is a valid quine” is a valid quine. “Is not a valid quine” is not a valid quine. (I’ll leave the meta-logic of this one alone 😃 ) ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quine-this/452996/27 "2008-06-17T00:50:05Z")
[QUOTE=Tengu] What do you mean by ‘what do you mean by’? How do you say ‘how do you say’? [/QUOTE] Thread over - we have _reverse_ quines! “Didn’t know such a thing was possible” didn’t know such a thing was possible. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quine-this/452996/28 "2008-06-17T01:22:13Z")
“Has twenty-nine words (counting hyphenates as two), five commas, and the numbers twenty-nine, two, and five, and isn’t a stand-alone sentence because it lacks a subject” has twenty-nine words (counting hyphenates as two), five commas, and the numbers twenty-nine, two, and five, and isn’t a stand-alone sentence because it lacks a subject. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quine-this/452996.md?page=1)