# Quit posting stupid crap here **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 10, 2009, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quit-posting-stupid-crap-here/517000 "2009-11-10T03:38:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quit-posting-stupid-crap-here/517000/101 "2009-11-11T02:56:11Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > Me make poopy in mine pantaloons. Fudged your Huggies? Take to MPSIMS buddy. ---
**Author:** ![St.Anger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@St.Anger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/St.Anger)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quit-posting-stupid-crap-here/517000/102 "2009-11-11T03:36:35Z")
> [@ivn1188](#): > > Yeah, big words from the guy who was challenging people to fight in the Meijer’s parking lot. It was Target, stupid ass. ---
**Author:** ![Rack-a-Bones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rack-a-Bones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rack-a-Bones)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quit-posting-stupid-crap-here/517000/103 "2009-11-11T03:51:42Z")
> [@St.Anger](#): > > It was Target, stupid ass. This gave me quite a chuckle. I for one don’t get the RO over RO in the pit, but it seems to send people into fits of rage which for me is entertaining, so, ::shrugs::, carry on. ---
**Author:** ![wolfstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d6d6ee/32.png) [@wolfstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfstu)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quit-posting-stupid-crap-here/517000/104 "2009-11-11T03:53:20Z")
> [@ivn1188](#): > > . . . But the only difference, indeed the _key_ difference, is that the BBQ Pit allows you to insult other posters. That’s what it’s for, that’s it’s stated purpose. It’s not GD with more profanity. The forum description for the BBQ Pit _explicitly_ gives “it’s stated purpose” as: > [@](#): > > For rants about the world or beefs with another poster. The BBQ Pit is explicitly stated as being the place for rants; Great Debates, on the other hand, is for ‘long-running discussions on great questions, debates, and witnessing’. Such are not the same as rants, and were I to post a thread in GD in which I did nothing but rail against some great perceived evil, it would very likely be moved to the forum for rants (the Pit). Since this forum description has been amended over the years (more than once – it formerly said ‘If you’ve gotta flame, do it here’, and formerly directed complaints about the Board to the Pit), I can only assume that it remains current and authoritative. I stand by my position that rants belong in the pit, while debates remain in GD. Threads which evolve from one to the other (or are inappropriately placed) are frequently [moved from GD to the Pit](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11628394&postcount=3), and occasionally in the [reverse direction](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11628394&postcount=3). And I further stand by my position that a rant serves a useful purpose: – in shining light on a problem previously shadowed in ignorance – in bringing the ranter to face his own ill-conceived notions when people demonstrate his errors – in letting off steam and giving an opportunity for catharsis. Now you can think these things are a waste of time, but ranting in the Pit is useful, it fights ignorance, and it is official Board policy, per the forum description. You’re right that this isn’t GD with profanity; it’s rants and flames, rather than debates and witnessing. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quit-posting-stupid-crap-here/517000/105 "2009-11-11T04:28:16Z")
> [@ivn1188](#): > > I’ve been around since the mailing list. Mailing list? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quit-posting-stupid-crap-here/517000/106 "2009-11-11T05:01:11Z")
> [@wolfstu](#): > > You’re right that this isn’t GD with profanity; it’s rants and flames, rather than debates and witnessing. I agree with you, and I would add that cites should not be avoided when flaming, the hatred of cites by the OP demonstrates why many being flamed are so dead set against them, a citation in combination of a flame is a very powerful weapon against ignorant ranting. People that think they should confront flames with no citations are only demanding that their beautiful theories be not confronted with ugly facts. As you mention, the pit offers an opportunity for catharsis, citations offer that x100 by adding one important dimension: One can not really depend much on poster’s opinions, valid citations offer context and support. Thanks to the internet, one can not get away with BS as it was possible before. Controversial as he is, Woody Allen did hit the nail on the head regarding how frustrating it was to deal with silly bloviators before the internet in that scene with the critic in Annie Hall: [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075686/quotes](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075686/quotes) > [@](#): > > Alvy Singer: [the man behind him in line is talking loudly] What I wouldn’t give for a large sock with horse manure in it! > Alvy Singer: [to audience] Whaddya do when you get stuck in a movie line with a guy like this behind you? > Man in Theatre Line: Wait a minute, why can’t I give my opinion? It’s a free country! > Alvy Singer: He can give it… do you have to give it so loud? I mean, aren’t you ashamed to pontificate like that? And the funny part of it is, Marshall McLuhan, you don’t know anything about Marshall McLuhan! > Man in Theatre Line: Oh, really? Well, it just so happens I teach a class at Columbia called “TV, Media and Culture.” So I think my insights into Mr. McLuhan, well, have a great deal of validity! > Alvy Singer: Oh, do ya? Well, that’s funny, because I happen to have Mr. McLuhan right here, so, so, yeah, just let me… > [pulls McLuhan out from behind a nearby poster] > Alvy Singer: come over here for a second… tell him! > Marshall McLuhan: I heard what you were saying! You know nothing of my work! You mean my whole fallacy is wrong. How you got to teach a course in anything is totally amazing! > Alvy Singer: Boy, if life were only like this! That was from 1977, and thanks to the internet now I can say, life is like that now! Citations are here to stay! Deal with them bloviators! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quit-posting-stupid-crap-here/517000/107 "2009-11-11T05:14:56Z")
Forgot to add the Youtube clip. The flabbergasted look in the face of the ignorant critic is priceless: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/OpIYz8tfGjY/hqdefault.jpg "Annie Hall") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpIYz8tfGjY) A little bit of NSFW dialog before the quoted scene, skip to 1:45 ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quit-posting-stupid-crap-here/517000/108 "2009-11-11T06:22:31Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Mailing list? 😕 Don’t worry, he’s just lying. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quit-posting-stupid-crap-here/517000/109 "2009-11-11T07:01:50Z")
Thank Og! And that shit about AOL, making that up too, as well, right? Because,well, _ewwww!_ ---
**Author:** ![Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimmy_Gibbler)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quit-posting-stupid-crap-here/517000/110 "2009-11-11T07:28:02Z")
> [@wolfstu](#): > > – in letting off steam and giving an opportunity for catharsis. Well, then, **GET A LIVE JOURNAL**. Or even easier, just fuck off back to MPSIMS (I mean this impersonally, of course; I am telling no one in particular to FOBTMPSIMS). But in the last 48 hours or so, we’ve had such abortions in the Pit as: [ul] [li]I hate it when I get margarine after having requested butter[/li][li]Someone asked me to do my job during my duly constituted working hours[/li][li]Sometimes people say “Hello!” to me when I would prefer that they didn’t[/li][li]I don’t care for the political culture of Detroit, Michigan one bit![/li][li]Someone I know but you don’t indulged a regrettable, if perhaps vaguely understandable, impulse and now he and his family will have to endure needless adversity because of it.[/li][li]Republicans continue to support Republican policies![/li][li]People in the suburbs often overestimate the rate of violent crime in cities, especially those parts of cities primarily populated by the poor or minorities.[/li][li]I will cry bloody murder when Republicans vote against health care reform, but I’m not footing my uncle’s medical bills _this_ time.[/li][/ul] I understand the urge to vent. And we have a forum where we pretend that we will read and care about their inane blather, and that forum is called More Pointless Shit I Must Share. Nobody actually reads that forum though, because we all know that it will be typical self-indulgent drivel about bad daddies and having to refrain from acting like a fucking animal in public. People have gotten wind of this and have tried to slip this confession-porn into the Pit. We must resist this. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quit-posting-stupid-crap-here/517000/111 "2009-11-11T07:37:26Z")
**Kimmy\_Gibbler** You are a ray of Sunshine in a cloudy world. 😉 Personally I don’t give a shit. I think that **ivn1188** ’s thread is very meta, it’s self-referential, at one time it is both a perfect example of what he despises, and a venue he has created for the rest of us to continue on doing that which he has explicitly stated that he cannot stand. It’s beautiful in its ironic, arrogant and downright stupid simplicity. It’s so funny how much this forum has devoted its time to nitpicking what the purpose of this forum is. Post-Modernism is what happens when Orouboros finishes consuming his tale. ---
**Author:** ![Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f08c70/32.png) [@Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crowbar_of_Irony_3)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quit-posting-stupid-crap-here/517000/112 "2009-11-11T12:36:03Z")
> [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](#): > > Nobody actually reads that forum though, because we all know that it will be typical self-indulgent drivel about bad daddies and having to refrain from acting like a fucking animal in public. People have gotten wind of this and have tried to slip this confession-porn into the Pit. We must resist this. Yah, I guess it just the phantoms increasing the post count in IMHO and MPSIMS. Interboard wars are one thing, intra-board wars are another. ---
**Author:** ![irishgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@irishgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irishgirl)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quit-posting-stupid-crap-here/517000/113 "2009-11-11T14:32:18Z")
I’ve been lurking since 1999, posting since 2001. The main changes I’ve noted in the Pit? Fewer multi-page trainwrecks Less trolling (I feel there may be a correlation there) Other than that, the content is pretty much the same- recreational outrage both big and small about topics both mundane and earth-shattering. ---
**Author:** ![born\_too\_late](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba9def/32.png) [@born\_too\_late](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/born_too_late)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quit-posting-stupid-crap-here/517000/114 "2009-11-11T15:08:42Z")
> [@ivn1188](#): > > This thread is great because it’s a veritable who’s who of posters whose line count pretty much matches their post count. A gallery of people too impressed with their own cleverness (which basically boils down to calling people stupid). Of course there are a few posters here who manage to stand out from the crowd as people of wit. But you know, deep down, it’s not you. > > The thing is, I’m sure most of you jokers see this like a bad western. I am the black-hatted, unshaven ruffian terrorizing the innocent townsfolk who are live in fear of of my uncivilized banditry, the cliched villain of a thousand tales. > > You envision yourself as the rugged individualist hero, moved to step forward when no one else can help, in the name of justice, as you stride slowly through a conveniently placed pall of smoke up the dusty main street of the dope, accompanied by the jingle of spurs. > > No doubt I, the unruly gunslinger, look up to notice your approach and for the barest instant you catch a look of alarm that tells you I know this is the day that my reign of terror comes to an end. But we both know it has to be settled, and I spit and sneer as you stand there heroically, ready to draw down for truth, justice, and the American Way. > > Of course, you are quicker than me, because you have good on your side and in your cinema of the mind, you have vanquished me, thus proving the righteousness of your cause. > > But that’s not really the movie that’s playing, even though you _really really_ wish it was. Instead, you’re more like the goon on Raiders of the Lost Ark, who steps out and starts swinging his sword around in a display calculated (by you) to instill fear and terror in your opponents. > > And it is at that point that I, suffering from the dual burdens of boredom and worry about the status of my lower intestinal tract, simply pull out the gun and let off a round, thus demonstrating the futility of your little display. You’ve come to the proverbial battle of wits armed with a plastic spoon, useless in the face of someone that so outclasses you that it’s sort of sad to watch. > > But to be honest, you aren’t really even like that thug in Raiders of the Lost Ark. He at least had some martial prowess, outdated and tragically misdirected as it was. No, the scene really only makes sense if we replace our intrepid Arab with the Star Wars kid. Because honestly, the real danger here is only that you will manage to impale yourself on that mic stand by accident and get made fun of on the internet. Of course, that second part already came true. > > But hey, why take it from me? There are 6 moved threads on the front page of the Pit, and I’m not banned. I guess that means I win. I picture you wetting yourself with glee whenever you see how many people are responding negatively to what your delusions convince you is your wit. I think it’s amusing that you validate yourself by patrolling an internet message board and extoll on how everyone else but you is a gibbering idiot. Even if you got a hundred threads moved, it still doesn’t change the fact that you’re a deluded, angry attention whore with nothing better to do. ---
**Author:** ![Epimetheus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c4cdca/32.png) [@Epimetheus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Epimetheus)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quit-posting-stupid-crap-here/517000/115 "2009-11-11T15:56:33Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Don’t worry, he’s just lying. Or, more than likely he is the sock puppet of a previously banned poster. That said, nobody that lurks for 10 years is going to suddenly decide “hey, it’s been a decade, I’ll sign up now”. > [@](#): > > A gallery of people too impressed with their own cleverness (which basically boils down to calling people stupid) Pot… kettle… ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quit-posting-stupid-crap-here/517000/116 "2009-11-11T16:05:16Z")
> [@Epimetheus](#): > > . That said, nobody that lurks for 10 years is going to suddenly decide “hey, it’s been a decade, I’ll sign up now”. I came pretty darn close. But I am wierd. ---
**Author:** ![Wakinyan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wakinyan/32/352_2.png) [@Wakinyan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wakinyan)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quit-posting-stupid-crap-here/517000/117 "2009-11-11T20:10:47Z")
> [@ivn1188](#): > > … I am the black-hatted, unshaven ruffian terrorizing the innocent townsfolk who are live in fear of of my uncivilized banditry, the cliched villain of a thousand tales. > > You envision yourself as the rugged individualist hero, moved to step forward when no one else can help, in the name of justice, as you stride slowly through a conveniently placed pall of smoke up the dusty main street of the dope, accompanied by the jingle of spurs. > > No doubt I, the unruly gunslinger, look up to notice your approach and for the barest instant you catch a look of alarm that tells you I know this is the day that my reign of terror comes to an end. [etc] :eek: This is among the weirdest shit I’ve read in a long time. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quit-posting-stupid-crap-here/517000/118 "2009-11-11T20:47:24Z")
> [@Wakinyan](#): > > :eek: This is among the weirdest shit I’ve read in a long time. I know, right? I laughed when I read that. Somebody needs to get over himself. Nobody thinks all that shit about him. ---
**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quit-posting-stupid-crap-here/517000/119 "2009-11-11T21:10:44Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Really? Then I suppose you must have had a different account then. He posted that on his **Rand Rover** account. Now, I’m not accusing ol’ **ivn** of anything, but it’s amazing that two 1) lawyers 2) showed up here at the same time 3) both claiming to have lurked here since 1999 (or “the mailing list”, whatever that was), 4) both have identical gripes about our inability to follow posting “rules” which only exist in his head, 5) both delight in trolling “liberal douches” 6) using almost exactly the same language, and 7) both spend an inordinate amount of their time here bragging about how posting here was beneath them. Right. Hell, **ivn/Rand** , a couple of times you’ve posted on the wrong account to me. I responded to **Rand** , and **ivn** responded back to me. Only thing that saved you there was the mods being completely asleep at the switch. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quit-posting-stupid-crap-here/517000/120 "2009-11-11T21:56:22Z")
> [@born\_too\_late](#): > > I picture you wetting yourself with glee whenever you see how many people are responding negatively to what your delusions convince you is your wit. I think it’s amusing that you validate yourself by patrolling an internet message board and extoll on how everyone else but you is a gibbering idiot. Even if you got a hundred threads moved, it still doesn’t change the fact that you’re a deluded, angry attention whore with nothing better to do. Now, that’s just not nice. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quit-posting-stupid-crap-here/517000.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quit-posting-stupid-crap-here/517000.md?page=7)