# Quitter loses!
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quitter-loses/795055
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [August 29, 2017, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quitter-loses/795055 "2017-08-29T20:27:59Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2017, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quitter-loses/795055/1 "2017-08-29T20:27:59Z")
[Howdya like them apples, quitter?](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_SARAH_PALIN_NEW_YORK_TIMES_AKOL-?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-08-29-16-21-20)
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> A federal judge on Tuesday tossed out a defamation lawsuit by Sarah Palin against The New York Times, saying the former Alaska governor failed to show the newspaper knew it was publishing false statements in an editorial before quickly correcting them.
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> The written ruling by Judge Jed Rakoff in Manhattan said the lawsuit seeking unspecified damages “fails on its face to adequately allege actual malice.”
😃
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### Author:  [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2017, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quitter-loses/795055/2 "2017-08-29T20:35:44Z")
From linked article:
“The Times’ editorial originally accused a Palin GOP political action committee of distributing a map depicting Democratic lawmakers beneath crosshairs before the 2011 shooting of Democratic U.S. Rep. Gabby Giffords in Arizona. The newspaper issued a correction noting the map showed electoral districts, not people, in crosshairs.”
Oh yeah, forgot about the crosshairs.
Possible campaign slogans:
Palin/Nugent 2020! We’re wonderful people! Really!
Nugent/Palin 2020! And you thought Trump was bad!!
Good to see her get her ass handed to her.
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### Author:  [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2017, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quitter-loses/795055/3 "2017-08-29T20:38:21Z")
We can just name that ticket “Pungent” and call it a day.
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### Author:  [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2017, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quitter-loses/795055/4 "2017-08-29T20:42:41Z")
Isn’t there a pedantic Latin legalistic phrase for “face plant”? **Bricker?**** Judge Parker?**
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### Author:  [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2017, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quitter-loses/795055/5 "2017-08-29T20:42:48Z")
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> Judge Jed Rakoff
I bet he never tires of jokes about whether he’s on the take.
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### Author:  [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quitter-loses/795055/6 "2017-08-29T21:08:09Z")
> [@bobot](#):
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> From linked article:
> “The Times’ editorial originally accused a Palin GOP political action committee of distributing a map depicting Democratic lawmakers beneath crosshairs before the 2011 shooting of Democratic U.S. Rep. Gabby Giffords in Arizona. The newspaper issued a correction noting the map showed electoral districts, not people, in crosshairs.”
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> Oh yeah, forgot about the crosshairs.
> Possible campaign slogans:
> Palin/Nugent 2020! We’re wonderful people! Really!
> Nugent/Palin 2020! And you thought Trump was bad!!
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> Good to see her get her ass handed to her.
I wish she would just fade into obscurity already. Why is she still “newsworthy” at all??
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### Author:  [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2017, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quitter-loses/795055/7 "2017-08-29T21:14:37Z")
> [@SteveG1](#):
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> I wish she would just fade into obscurity already. Why is she still “newsworthy” at all??
Much like the [pitch drop](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitch_drop_experiment) experiment, there’s just a few seconds every decade or so that she might say something coherent.
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### Author:  [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2017, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quitter-loses/795055/8 "2017-08-29T21:38:24Z")
> [@Riemann](#):
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> I bet he never tires of jokes about whether he’s on the take.
Reverend Spooner would have a good time with that name too.
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### Author:  [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2017, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quitter-loses/795055/9 "2017-08-29T22:43:17Z")
> [@elucidator](#):
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> Isn’t there a pedantic Latin legalistic phrase for “face plant”? **Bricker?**** Judge Parker?**
_Facia flora_. Ipso facto, QED.
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### Author:  [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2017, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quitter-loses/795055/10 "2017-08-29T23:54:24Z")
> [@SteveG1](#):
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> I wish she would just fade into obscurity already. Why is she still “newsworthy” at all??
You need to ask the media outlets. They are the ones who chose who is, and is not, “newsworthy”.
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### Author:  [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2017, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quitter-loses/795055/11 "2017-08-30T00:08:37Z")
> [@doorhinge](#):
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> You need to ask the media outlets. They are the ones who chose who is, and is not, “newsworthy”.
I’m going out on a limb here: Former VP candidate sues one of the most well established newspapers in the country and has her ass handed to her.
Newsworthy or not? I’m gonna go with newsworthy. Point-and-laughingly so.
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### Author:  [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2017, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quitter-loses/795055/12 "2017-08-30T00:19:27Z")
> [@bobot](#):
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> I’m going out on a limb here: Former VP candidate sues one of the most well established newspapers in the country and has her ass handed to her.
> Newsworthy or not? I’m gonna go with newsworthy. Point-and-laughingly so.
I gotta say (TRIGGER WARNING!), **Doorhinge** knows about laughing.
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### Author:  [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2017, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quitter-loses/795055/13 "2017-08-30T14:50:43Z")
OK, so the Times article mistakenly thought Palin was targeting individuals with crosshairs, then realized it was actually voting districts she was targeting?
So why would she think the false reporting of her calling for individual killings would be worse than her calling for mass slaughter?
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### Author:  [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2017, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quitter-loses/795055/14 "2017-08-30T15:39:04Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> OK, so the Times article mistakenly thought Palin was targeting individuals with crosshairs, then realized it was actually voting districts she was targeting?
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> So why would she think the false reporting of her calling for individual killings would be worse than her calling for mass slaughter?
The problem she has is that someone took that map as LITERAL crosshairs and mowed down a Congresswoman and her constituents.
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### Author:  [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2017, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quitter-loses/795055/15 "2017-08-30T16:15:07Z")
> [@doorhinge](#):
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> You
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> need
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> to
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> ask
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> outlets.
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I did. They said to ask you.
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### Author:  [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2017, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quitter-loses/795055/16 "2017-08-30T16:25:22Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> OK, so the Times article mistakenly thought Palin was targeting individuals with crosshairs, then realized it was actually voting districts she was targeting?
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> So why would she think the false reporting of her calling for individual killings would be worse than her calling for mass slaughter?
Technically, it was an op-ed, which _tend_ to have looser standards. Still, the claims were fact-checked and retracted before the lawsuit started (not in response to the lawsuit). Because that’s what “Fake News” does when it gets something wrong…it issues corrections.
Additionally, there is no conclusive link between the map and the shootings. Anyone is free to believe there is one, but any claim is opinion, not fact, including the claim in the original op-ed.
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### Author:  [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2017, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quitter-loses/795055/17 "2017-08-30T16:31:34Z")
> [@running\_coach](#):
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> I gotta say (TRIGGER WARNING!), **Doorhinge** knows about laughing.
Well yeah, he is a fucking BBS laughing stock.
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### Author:  [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2017, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quitter-loses/795055/18 "2017-08-30T19:37:45Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> Reverend Spooner would have a good time with that name too.
Yeah. I bet his enemies in high school called him Red.
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### Author:  [@Oly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oly)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2017, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quitter-loses/795055/19 "2017-09-01T05:01:10Z")
“Quitters always lose, and losers always quit.”
Vlombard di’Wince.
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### Author:  [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2017, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quitter-loses/795055/20 "2017-09-01T13:09:48Z")
Hows that lawsuity defamey thing workin’ out for ya?
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