# Quiz show scandals - where was the crime?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quiz-show-scandals-where-was-the-crime/774204>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [December 8, 2016, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quiz-show-scandals-where-was-the-crime/774204 "2016-12-08T14:04:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Jim\_s\_Son](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19adc/32.png) [@Jim\_s\_Son](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_s_Son)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quiz-show-scandals-where-was-the-crime/774204/21 "2016-12-09T12:33:19Z")

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> [@CurtC](#):
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> I don’t understand how that could be “too early.”

From what I remember, television was such a powerful, new force that people weren’t used to it. All of a sudden, you had moving pictures and sounds right in your living room. It took some time in getting used to what was real and what isn’t. Maybe today we still aren’t completely used to it.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quiz-show-scandals-where-was-the-crime/774204/22 "2016-12-09T13:52:14Z")

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> [@kunilou](#):
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> **Jackmanii** , payola was a violation of the FCC rule that broadcasters must disclose when money changes hands in exchange for programming and sponsorship must be “clearly identified.” Even though in some cases, the stations didn’t know the DJ’s were taking money, they were still held responsible for it.

_“The Payola scandal reaches a new level of public prominence and legal gravity (Feb. 11) in 1960, when President Eisenhower called it an issue of public morality and the FCC proposed a new law making involvement in Payola a criminal act.”_

> **[The Payola scandal heats up | February 11, 1960 | HISTORY](https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/the-payola-scandal-heats-up)**
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> The Payola scandal reaches a new level of public prominence and legal gravity on February 11, 1960, when President Eisenhower called it an issue of public morality and the FCC proposed a new law making involvement in Payola a criminal act. What...

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quiz-show-scandals-where-was-the-crime/774204/23 "2016-12-09T15:24:28Z")

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> [@Jim\_s\_Son](#):
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> From what I remember, television was such a powerful, new force that people weren’t used to it. All of a sudden, you had moving pictures and sounds right in your living room. It took some time in getting used to what was real and what isn’t. Maybe today we still aren’t completely used to it.

Yes.

There is social value in mass media being seen as authoritative, not as lying propaganda full of hidden payoffs. This applies to ads, news, serious shows, and frivolous shows. If media is the public’s window onto the world, it’s a Good Thing for it to be basically a clear and honest window.

The present situation with Faux News, fake news, social media echo chambers, etc., ought to make it very, very obvious what happens when media descends to the lowest level of “anything’s good; we just want eyeballs”.

The 1950s was a more innocent time. But it was also a more regulated and civic-virtue oriented time. For white male mainstream definitions of “civic” and “virtue”.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quiz-show-scandals-where-was-the-crime/774204/24 "2016-12-09T15:26:08Z")

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> [@TSBG](#):
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> I’ve worked on cooking competition shows and though I was never privy to the judging process, I was told we were covered by game show laws. Now there’s no way to know how sausage gets made (heh) during the judging, but on a basic level I assume it means all the stoves must work the same, producers don’t stack the deck by giving one person better cuts of meat, etc.

Those are likely state laws - most likely California’s, though perhaps you taped somewhere else.

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**Author:** ![Marion\_Wormer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d07c76/32.png) [@Marion\_Wormer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marion_Wormer)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quiz-show-scandals-where-was-the-crime/774204/25 "2016-12-09T23:46:19Z")

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My memory is that there were not explicit laws (as has been stated above) about contests on TV until after the scandal. However, there were laws about contests/sweepstake in the newspaper, magazines, and I think on radio.

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**Author:** ![TSBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/77aa72/32.png) [@TSBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TSBG)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2016, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quiz-show-scandals-where-was-the-crime/774204/26 "2016-12-10T07:26:10Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Those are likely state laws - most likely California’s, though perhaps you taped somewhere else.

Edited in CA, recorded in various. May have been a CA state law, or maybe federal laws were followed from an abundance of caution. Wish I knew now; that part of things was never relevant to me.

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