# R.I.P. Ady Gil \[Sea Shepherd boat\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-i-p-ady-gil-sea-shepherd-boat/546987>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [July 17, 2010, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-i-p-ady-gil-sea-shepherd-boat/546987 "2010-07-17T02:43:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-i-p-ady-gil-sea-shepherd-boat/546987/201 "2010-07-22T18:44:32Z")

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**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-i-p-ady-gil-sea-shepherd-boat/546987/202 "2010-07-22T20:01:26Z")

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Moo!

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-i-p-ady-gil-sea-shepherd-boat/546987/203 "2010-07-22T21:35:22Z")

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> [@Stoneburg](#):
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> It is unlikely that we will end up holding the same opinion, but I am interested in understanding how you think and how you’ve come to your conclusion.

I tend to view most things on the planet made of meat to be potentially edible. Most of the food taboos I have are culturally ingrained and have nothing to do with what is practical or what is morally right. I would never eat a dog or a cat but I cannot sit back and proclaim that doing so is morally wrong. I don’t see eating a whale as being any different from eating a deer or a trout. The only reason it would be immoral to kill a whale is if it is endangered. I’m a big fan of bio-diversity.

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**Author:** ![cckerberos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@cckerberos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cckerberos)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-i-p-ady-gil-sea-shepherd-boat/546987/204 "2010-07-23T04:02:34Z")

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I think that it may be true that activists don’t care about treaties, etc.

However, those activists benefit greatly from an anti-whaling sentiment among the general population that, IMO, is largely based on misconceptions about illegality and the likelihood of extinction (and Star Trek IV :)).

That’s the real reason why you’ll never hear the SS say something along the lines of “Yeah, they’re not endangered, but so what? That’s not the point!” The average American (or whoever) is likely to respond to that with “Oh. They’re not endangered? Then who cares?”

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**Author:** ![Stoneburg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@Stoneburg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoneburg)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-i-p-ady-gil-sea-shepherd-boat/546987/205 "2010-07-23T09:28:08Z")

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> [@Odesio](#):
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> I tend to view most things on the planet made of meat to be potentially edible. Most of the food taboos I have are culturally ingrained and have nothing to do with what is practical or what is morally right. I would never eat a dog or a cat but I cannot sit back and proclaim that doing so is morally wrong. I don’t see eating a whale as being any different from eating a deer or a trout. The only reason it would be immoral to kill a whale is if it is endangered. I’m a big fan of bio-diversity.

Do you think there is a moral difference between killing a mosquito and killing a dolphin? Assuming neither is endangered.

I appreciate you describing how you feel on the issue and I would be interested in how you’ve arrived at your conclusion. What your moral is regarding killing, and whether you believe that other forms of sentience than human have a value.

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**Author:** ![Stoneburg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@Stoneburg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoneburg)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-i-p-ady-gil-sea-shepherd-boat/546987/206 "2010-07-23T09:30:31Z")

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And it is not a racist phenomenon, it’s not just the japanese doing it, us [scandinavians](http://www.seashepherd.org/news-and-media/news-100720-1.html) do it too

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2010, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-i-p-ady-gil-sea-shepherd-boat/546987/209 "2010-08-07T03:04:23Z")

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**Capt chuck suxs** , this is Great Debates, (for discussions), not The BBQ Pit (for expressing anger). Your mouth-foaming rant, spiced with obscenity and racist references, is not appropriate to this forum.

If you have nothing to contribute to the discussion, do not post.

[/Moderating]

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**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2010, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-i-p-ady-gil-sea-shepherd-boat/546987/211 "2010-08-07T04:31:06Z")

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Aah, suicide by mod.  
Buh-bye, now.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2010, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-i-p-ady-gil-sea-shepherd-boat/546987/213 "2010-08-07T04:46:19Z")

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> [@Rick](#):
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> Aah, suicide by mod.  
> Buh-bye, now.

win.

We need a thread on how to get electronic vomit out of a keyboard.

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**Author:** ![Curate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@Curate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Curate)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2010, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-i-p-ady-gil-sea-shepherd-boat/546987/214 "2010-08-09T16:03:11Z")

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Following along on the further adventures of the crew of the Ady Gil, I found this week’s confrontation between the AG crewmember and the captain of the Bob Barker to be pretty hard to watch. The captain seems a little too invested in consensus-building and not really compfortable with his authority.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-i-p-ady-gil-sea-shepherd-boat/546987/215 "2011-02-17T03:19:35Z")

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Ordinarily I would not necro a thread but:

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> \*\*Japan halts whale hunt after chase by protesters  
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> Japan has suspended its annual Antarctic whale hunt following protests from a campaign group.
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> Activists from the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society, a US-based environmental group, have been chasing the Japanese fleet’s mother ship.
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> An official at the country’s fisheries agency said whaling had been halted “for now” because of safety concerns.
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> SOURCE: [Japan halts whale hunt after chase by protesters - BBC News](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12477398)

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**Author:** ![julezz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/838e76/32.png) [@julezz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/julezz)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-i-p-ady-gil-sea-shepherd-boat/546987/216 "2021-02-16T03:36:31Z")

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If it is indeed a “sanctuary,” then why does it matter who has economic control. A sanctuary is meant to protect the life within it, no matter who has control. Is that not correct? Why is there even a question of whether sea life (fish or mammal) can be hunted. That should be irrefutable.

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**Author:** ![Latimera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/latimera/32/497_2.png) [@Latimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latimera)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-i-p-ady-gil-sea-shepherd-boat/546987/217 "2021-02-16T05:44:24Z")

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The Southern Whale Santuary was created by the International Whaling Commission (IWC) in 1994, which banned commercial whaling by its members. Japan opposed creation of the sanctuary and continued taking whales in the region for “scientific” purposes. That take was always controversial, and Japan was widely critisized. In 2014 the world court ordered Japan to cease as it was in violation of the IWC. Japan tried and failed to get the IWC to remove the commercial whaling prohibition. So, in 2019 Japan withdrew from the IWC. Rather predictable actually. So the santuary is irrelevant to Japan now.

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**Author:** ![julezz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/838e76/32.png) [@julezz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/julezz)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2021, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-i-p-ady-gil-sea-shepherd-boat/546987/218 "2021-02-17T01:32:10Z")

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Such a shame. TY for this informative post. If the intl court can’t stop them, who can? What can be done to stop them? It’s so maddening and so so sad.

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**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2021, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-i-p-ady-gil-sea-shepherd-boat/546987/219 "2021-02-17T14:31:24Z")

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I remember when the Sea Shepherd’s flagship [RV Farley Mowat](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RV_Farley_Mowat) was seized by the Canadian government off of Newfoundland and subsequently impounded in Lunenburg, Nova Scotia.

I saw her still sitting in the harbour in 2013 I was when visiting the [Bluenose II](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluenose_II) during it’s restoration. Eventually she sold, resold, sank, was refloated, then finally broken up for scrap.

[![](https://i.ibb.co/dfW4T5p/Farley-mowat.jpg) ](https://i.ibb.co/dfW4T5p/Farley-mowat.jpg)

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