# R. Lee Ermey dissing Obama **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [February 4, 2012, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-lee-ermey-dissing-obama/611706 "2012-02-04T00:42:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2012, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-lee-ermey-dissing-obama/611706/41 "2012-02-05T10:11:56Z")
Not by me. ---
**Author:** ![Stelios](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@Stelios](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stelios)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2012, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-lee-ermey-dissing-obama/611706/42 "2012-02-05T10:53:34Z")
Hell, by today’s standards he’s still a moderate. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2012, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-lee-ermey-dissing-obama/611706/43 "2012-02-05T13:23:07Z")
Well shoot. There went that movie. ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2012, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-lee-ermey-dissing-obama/611706/44 "2012-02-05T13:47:20Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > That might be unremarkable, but shit like “They’re driving us into bankruptcy so they can impose socialism on us.” is a lot worse than stupid. How so? “They’re” … I agree that if he is just talking about democrats then he is limiting the problem. “bankruptcy” … perhaps not technically correct but the concept is the same “impose socialism” … an overreach but hardly worse than stupid ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2012, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-lee-ermey-dissing-obama/611706/45 "2012-02-05T14:56:39Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > The best part of him slipped down the crack of his Mama’s ass and turned into a stain on the sheets. Touche’ 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2012, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-lee-ermey-dissing-obama/611706/46 "2012-02-05T14:58:24Z")
On the plus side, I found his [Coors commercial](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z3nHAi2oxw&feature=related) listed on that page very funny. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2012, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-lee-ermey-dissing-obama/611706/47 "2012-02-05T15:44:11Z")
R. Lee Ermey amuses me. Yes, like a clown. He’s a parody of a right-wing jarhead who gets engorged while talking about weaponry and its effects on people and things. I was a huge fan of Full Metal Jacket, and I believe that he pretty much played himself there. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2012, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-lee-ermey-dissing-obama/611706/48 "2012-02-05T16:38:45Z")
A current NRA board member making statements against Obama? Color me surprised. I imagine it’s almost required of him at every public speaking gig. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2012, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-lee-ermey-dissing-obama/611706/49 "2012-02-05T16:49:27Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > On the plus side, I found his [Coors commercial](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z3nHAi2oxw&feature=related) listed on that page very funny. Cool. Now we know R. Lee is the second toughest guy in the Corps. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2012, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-lee-ermey-dissing-obama/611706/50 "2012-02-05T16:54:15Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > A current NRA board member making statements against Obama? Color me surprised. > > I imagine it’s almost required of him at every public speaking gig. Eh, it was a non-partisan charity event, and he was obviously invited as a movie/TV star and pro-veteran spokesman, not as an NRA guy. He’s not a figure like Rush Limbaugh where he’s known primarily for his political opinions. I’m fairly certain he was invited to give some pro-USO, pro-Toys for Tots pablum to make donors feel warm and fuzzy towards those groups so they fork over some donations. Obviously he can say what he wants, but its pretty douche to go off on a political rant like that at a charity event, as I seriously doubt the USO or Toys for Tots wants to be associated with one political party over the other, and especially don’t want to turn off pro-Obama donors. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2012, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-lee-ermey-dissing-obama/611706/51 "2012-02-05T20:18:40Z")
> [@What\_the](#): > > How so? > > “They’re” … I agree that if he is just talking about democrats then he is limiting the problem. > > “bankruptcy” … perhaps not technically correct but the concept is the same > > “impose socialism” … an overreach but hardly worse than stupid :rolleyes: Dude, he’s talking about [Cloward-Pivening.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward%E2%80%93Piven_strategy) That dishonest meme is a **lot** worse than stupid. Nobody in the Admin or the Democratic Party wants to in any way “crash the system” so they can then “impose socialism.” ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2012, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-lee-ermey-dissing-obama/611706/52 "2012-02-05T20:36:01Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > :rolleyes: Dude, he’s talking about [Cloward-Pivening.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward%E2%80%93Piven_strategy) That dishonest meme is a **lot** worse than stupid. Nobody in the Admin or the Democratic Party wants to in any way “crash the system” so they can then “impose socialism.” Well, I’d expect an old fossil like him to be stuck in time in the mid-60’s so this fits just perfectly. Often stupid old fools like him seem completely unaware that any time has passed since their heyday. Their lack of relevancy makes them amusing and embarrassing at the same time. For his next act, I await his rant about the communists under his bed, and him telling the damn kids to get off his lawn. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2012, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-lee-ermey-dissing-obama/611706/53 "2012-02-05T20:58:25Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > and him telling the damn kids to get off his lawn. While holding an M-14. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2012, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-lee-ermey-dissing-obama/611706/54 "2012-02-05T21:11:42Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Well, I’d expect an old fossil like him to be stuck in time in the mid-60’s so this fits just perfectly. Often stupid old fools like him seem completely unaware that any time has passed since their heyday. Their lack of relevancy makes them amusing and embarrassing at the same time. > > For his next act, I await his rant about the communists under his bed, and him telling the damn kids to get off his lawn. No, I wish it were simply a matter of Ermey being lost in the '60s, but I think the reality is far worse, he’s saying shit like this because he’s lost in the GlennBeckiverse. Have you not noticed all the far-right pundits over the past three years attributing a “Cloward-Piven strategy” to Obama and the Dems? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2012, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-lee-ermey-dissing-obama/611706/55 "2012-02-05T22:40:38Z")
Must have run out of enemy watermelons or something. ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2012, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-lee-ermey-dissing-obama/611706/56 "2012-02-05T22:46:03Z")
Hey, don’t bring The Jackal into this. He’s above that political shit. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2012, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-lee-ermey-dissing-obama/611706/57 "2012-02-06T15:17:36Z")
BTW, **is** Ermey’s character in _Full Metal Jacket_ really like a real-life USMC DI (as Ermey was once)? Makes one wonder how the USMC ever wins **anything,** if that’s the case. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2012, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-lee-ermey-dissing-obama/611706/58 "2012-02-06T15:26:03Z")
Hartman was doing pretty well except for Pyle. I always thought Kubrick’s message was that this is how seriously the Marine Corps needs to mess with people’s heads to be the excellent fighting force it is, and that both of their deaths can be excused, really _must_ be excused, from the standpoint of the ideals of the Corps and the mission of war. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2012, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-lee-ermey-dissing-obama/611706/59 "2012-02-06T15:30:49Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] BTW, is Ermey’s character in Full Metal Jacket really like a real-life USMC DI (as Ermey was once)? Makes one wonder how the USMC ever wins anything, if that’s the case. [/QUOTE] The Navy uses Marine Corp DI’s, and that wasn’t my experience. Here’s the thing…contrary to the opinions of some folks (who will remain nameless), Full Metal Jacket wasn’t a documentary, but instead it was a Hollywood MOVIE. 😛 -XT ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2012, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-lee-ermey-dissing-obama/611706/60 "2012-02-06T15:33:31Z")
> [@Beware\_of\_Doug](#): > > Hartman was doing pretty well except for Pyle. I always thought Kubrick’s message was that this is how seriously the Marine Corps needs to mess with people’s heads to be the excellent fighting force it is, and that both of their deaths can be excused, really _must_ be excused, from the standpoint of the ideals of the Corps and the mission of war. > [@xtisme](#): > > The Navy uses Marine Corp DI’s, and that wasn’t my experience. Here’s the thing…contrary to the opinions of some folks (who will remain nameless), Full Metal Jacket wasn’t a documentary, but instead it was a Hollywood MOVIE. 😛 > > -XT Exactly. It’s hard to see how such flaming assholery would **work** so well on recruits IRL, regardless of how it works on fictional characters. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-lee-ermey-dissing-obama/611706.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/r-lee-ermey-dissing-obama/611706.md?page=4)