# "Rabbi" Rosencratz, consider yourself pitted. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 28, 2004, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rabbi-rosencratz-consider-yourself-pitted/236836 "2004-03-28T01:12:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![htns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ba8739/32.png) [@htns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/htns)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2004, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rabbi-rosencratz-consider-yourself-pitted/236836/1 "2004-03-28T01:12:46Z")
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=245391&page=2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=245391&page=2) You sure do commit a lot of lashon hora for a rabbi, buddy. Didn’t your teachers at yeshiva teach you the importance of gathering evidence and hearing both sides of the story before judging? Didn’t you learn the importance of preserving the reputation of the accused until guilt is proven in an impartial court? Know what? I can’t help but think that not only are you not a Rabbi, you’re probably not even Jewish to begin with. Here’s a quote from **tomndebb** that says it all about you: > [@](#): > > Rabbi Rosencratz, you are getting dangerously close to the line where you appear as a hate-spewing kook who operates on the same principles of bad rhetoric and stereotypes as the very people that you are in such haste to condemn. That does it. I’m starting to suspect you of being one of the SF kooks impersonating a rabbi to make Jews look bad. I’ll admit that I’ve been wrong before, and if I’m wrong here then I’ll apologise and pay for your Charter Member subscription. But I gotta say…I’m suspicious. In the meantime, may a child be named after you soon. (If you really are Jewish, then you’ll know that is NOT a compliment.) ---
**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2004, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rabbi-rosencratz-consider-yourself-pitted/236836/2 "2004-03-28T01:17:23Z")
Wooo-hooo!!! My first thread to have spawned a pit!!! Mr Rosencratz, you are full of shit. All I have to say on the matter. And thankyou **htns** for having given me the opportunity 🙂 I like the conspiracy that he’s a Stormfronter in disguise, but I like to think (errr make that _hope_) that they aren’t that smart. ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2004, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rabbi-rosencratz-consider-yourself-pitted/236836/3 "2004-03-28T01:17:26Z")
Rabbis are educated. One would think a rabbi could correctly spell Pontius Pilate. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2004, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rabbi-rosencratz-consider-yourself-pitted/236836/4 "2004-03-28T01:19:30Z")
Huh? It’s insulting to have a child named after you? ---
**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2004, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rabbi-rosencratz-consider-yourself-pitted/236836/5 "2004-03-28T01:27:08Z")
> [@Libertarian](#): > > Huh? It’s insulting to have a child named after you? > [@](#): > > \*\*Ashkenazi Jews name their children after deceased relatives they wish to honor. \*\* [http://www.denvermohel.com/NamingYourChild.htm](http://www.denvermohel.com/NamingYourChild.htm) I’ll leave it to you to make the logical connection… ---
**Author:** ![Scribble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scribble/32/3317_2.png) [@Scribble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scribble)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2004, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rabbi-rosencratz-consider-yourself-pitted/236836/6 "2004-03-28T01:29:41Z")
> [@Libertarian](#): > > Huh? It’s insulting to have a child named after you? While you’re alive, it is. The idea is that you name children after people you loved who have passed away. A little of the person you loved is somehow carried on in the new baby, to replace (at least a little) the person you miss. If you name a child after someone still living, what you’re doing, in essence, is saying “You can die now–I’ve already replaced you,” or “You’re dead to me.” It’s a pretty major insult, yeah. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2004, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rabbi-rosencratz-consider-yourself-pitted/236836/7 "2004-03-28T01:34:33Z")
Wow. That’s fascinating. The SDMB is an epistemological spa. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2004, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rabbi-rosencratz-consider-yourself-pitted/236836/8 "2004-03-28T01:40:00Z")
In other words, and this occasion requires a mixed metaphor, we’ve let the litmus cat out of the bag. It sure doesn’t take the heat out of the burn, though. Yikes, **htns**. ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2004, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rabbi-rosencratz-consider-yourself-pitted/236836/9 "2004-03-28T02:57:39Z")
> [@Scribble](#): > > While you’re alive, it is. > > The idea is that you name children after people you loved who have passed away. A little of the person you loved is somehow carried on in the new baby, to replace (at least a little) the person you miss. > > If you name a child after someone still living, what you’re doing, in essence, is saying “You can die now–I’ve already replaced you,” or “You’re dead to me.” It’s a pretty major insult, yeah. That’s ridiculous. People name their children after close friends and relatives all the time. My nephew was named after my father, who - last I checked - was still alive. I myself was named after an uncle who had long since passed away, but I was also named for a close friend of my parents. It’s a great, great honor to have a child named after you, not an insult. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2004, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rabbi-rosencratz-consider-yourself-pitted/236836/10 "2004-03-28T03:15:18Z")
> [@dantheman](#): > > That’s ridiculous. People name their children after close friends and relatives all the time. My nephew was named after my father, who - last I checked - was still alive. I myself was named after an uncle who had long since passed away, but I was also named for a close friend of my parents. > > It’s a great, great honor to have a child named after you, not an insult. That’s funny, you don’t _look_ Jewish! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2004, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rabbi-rosencratz-consider-yourself-pitted/236836/11 "2004-03-28T03:33:17Z")
> [@Scribble](#): > > The idea is that you name children after people you loved who have passed away. A little of the person you loved is somehow carried on in the new baby, to replace (at least a little) the person you miss. > > If you name a child after someone still living, what you’re doing, in essence, is saying “You can die now–I’ve already replaced you,” or “You’re dead to me.” It’s a pretty major insult, yeah. “My one and only son, I have taken the momentous occasion of your birth…to take a potshot at that theiving rat bastard uncle of mine!” ---
**Author:** ![Scribble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scribble/32/3317_2.png) [@Scribble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scribble)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2004, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rabbi-rosencratz-consider-yourself-pitted/236836/12 "2004-03-28T04:09:59Z")
> [@dantheman](#): > > That’s ridiculous. People name their children after close friends and relatives all the time. My nephew was named after my father, who - last I checked - was still alive. I myself was named after an uncle who had long since passed away, but I was also named for a close friend of my parents. > > It’s a great, great honor to have a child named after you, not an insult. For you, yes, it would be. But not for me. Look–different cultures have different standards about lots of things people do, including naming children. And why should it strike you as ridiculous that something thought of as an honor among one group of people could be considered an insult by a different group? ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2004, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rabbi-rosencratz-consider-yourself-pitted/236836/13 "2004-03-28T04:16:40Z")
> [@Scribble](#): > > And why should it strike you as ridiculous that something thought of as an honor among one group of people could be considered an insult by a different group? It might have helped if you’d been more specific about which group you were referring to. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2004, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rabbi-rosencratz-consider-yourself-pitted/236836/14 "2004-03-28T05:07:32Z")
> [@Q.E.D.](#): > > It might have helped if you’d been more specific about which group you were referring to. > [@Duck Duck Goose](#): > > Ashkenazi Jews name their children after deceased relatives they wish to honor. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2004, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rabbi-rosencratz-consider-yourself-pitted/236836/15 "2004-03-28T05:15:13Z")
Well, he DID misspell “Rosencrantz,” which may tend to support the SF plant hypothesis. 🙂 Still, his initial foray into the linked thread, ascribed mental illness to the Stormfronters on a wholesale basis. While the contradictory response was immediate, it was not necessarily predictable, in the form that it took. I’m not particularly inclined to credit Stromfronters as capable of formulating such a “wheels within wheels” approach. I’d be more inclined to expect to find him aligned with the JDL, myself. Yes I DO see the flaw inherent in my characterization of Stormfronters as incapable of such a subtle strategy. But my opinion of **Rabbi Rosencratz’s** leanings remains as I have stated. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2004, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rabbi-rosencratz-consider-yourself-pitted/236836/16 "2004-03-28T05:36:37Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > 🆒 **Scribble**!= **Duck Duck Goose**. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Rabbi\_Rosencratz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Rabbi\_Rosencratz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rabbi_Rosencratz)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2004, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rabbi-rosencratz-consider-yourself-pitted/236836/17 "2004-03-28T06:01:03Z")
This is the most disgusting thing I have ever seen on a message board in my life. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2004, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rabbi-rosencratz-consider-yourself-pitted/236836/18 "2004-03-28T06:02:06Z")
> [@Q.E.D.](#): > > **Scribble**!= **Duck Duck Goose**. 😛 That’s what _you_ think. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2004, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rabbi-rosencratz-consider-yourself-pitted/236836/19 "2004-03-28T06:02:21Z")
> [@Rabbi Rosencratz](#): > > This is the most disgusting thing I have ever seen on a message board in my life. You haven’t been on many message boards, have you? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Never\_Have\_I\_Because\_I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@Never\_Have\_I\_Because\_I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Never_Have_I_Because_I)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2004, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rabbi-rosencratz-consider-yourself-pitted/236836/20 "2004-03-28T06:45:11Z")
> [@Q.E.D.](#): > > You haven’t been on many message boards, have you? :rolleyes: Q.E.D., have you been on lots of message boards? YEAH? OK! YEAH! [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rabbi-rosencratz-consider-yourself-pitted/236836.md?page=2)