# Race is non-existent

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**Created:** [December 5, 2012, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/race-is-non-existent/643100 "2012-12-05T18:28:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![Chief\_Pedant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@Chief\_Pedant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chief_Pedant)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2013, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/race-is-non-existent/643100/777 "2013-02-10T03:43:42Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> I did not see this “tenor” in Coyne’s piece. Methinks your own biases might be creeping into your interpretation…
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> This is past data, not current data, by the way. And IQ is just another test score- you’ve had no problem stating, effectively, half the black population has a SAT/LSAT/etc score of less than X- you really seem to treat IQ as something magical. Considering all the test-scores you’ve gleefully banded about, I don’t see why you’re so insistent on focusing on this one. Dude, it’s just another test, with the same gap as the rest. This one just happens to show that the gap has _shrunk_.

It’s 2002 data, according to you. Ten years ago. And also according to you, if you go back to 1972, the average black IQ falls to 79. Go back a few more decades, and the average black IQ would fall into the 60s. As I’ve said before, ridiculous.

The only way you can get the gap to shrink is to quote a guy who thinks american blacks were literally mentally retarded 50 years ago. That way, they can now be just mentally challenged because the gap has shrunk.

And there is quite a large difference between what IQs test and what academic exams test, in my view. One is an estimate of intelligence and cognitive function; the other is the skillset to retain a very specific package of content. But in any case, it is disingenuous for you to try and retain the higher ground, scolding me for thinking “blacks are inferior” when the only difference between you and me is your reason why they are inferior. In point of fact, you consider american blacks substantially inferior to the white population for cognitive functions.

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