Race, Racism and Such

[Hector_St_Clare]

@MrDibble

Alrighty, then

Uh, what’s that supposed to me?

I think that some ethnic/racial groups do have greater tendencies to selfishness, low social trust, etc., and that those differences are probably genetically based to some extent. Southern Indians, for a start. Don’t you? I don’t know if Jews are among them or not.

@MrDibble

Are you unfamiliar with the existence of New Covenant Theology, or just conveniently ignoring it?

Are you familiar with where the idea that Jews and Christians worship different gods comes from, or are you just ignoring it? (Hint, Marcion, who was not a fundamentalist or any sort of protestant for that matter).

@MrDibble

Who said anything about “entitlement”? You really are on a thin brown streak of just plain making up shit I said, aren’t you? That thread shows I was right on the merits, too, Mr “Cuba is so much a better country than those mediocre Western Liberal Democracies”.How the fuck should I know, you were the one who brought it up here (assuming you mean this current discussion - I explained the relevance enough in that one).

And ‘scars’? if you want to accuse me of lying, do it openly, and in the Pit.

1. I still think Cuba is a better country than most western liberal democracy, and that the old communist countries of eastern Europe were too. I’ll stand by that. Perhaps not for people like you, but certainly for the poorest slice of society, which perhaps is irrelevant to you.

2. Your comments proved nothing, actually. All you did was show that prosperous societies mostly tend to be liberal democracies. Well, they also mostly tend to be in Europe or Anglo-America. Whether a society is in Europe or not is a substantially better predictor of how prosperous it is than whether it’s a liberal democracy. Africa has plenty of liberal democracies, and I think most people would much rather live in Russia, Belarus or Cuba than in any of the African democracies, or for that matter in any Southern Asian democracy. I don’t know exactly why Europe and Anglo-America are the most prosperous regions of the world, but I doubt it has jack to do with liberal democracy, or for that matter with capitalism.

3. I didn’t think you were lying, I included the quotes because it was a direct quote, and I brought up the quote to underscore my extreme disapproval for people who bring personal anecdotes and experiences into what should be objective discussions about the issues.

If you want to start a pit thread, go right ahead.