# Rachel Corey in Gaza: it takes an American death.....

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [March 17, 2003, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachel-corey-in-gaza-it-takes-an-american-death/161999 "2003-03-17T14:59:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2003, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachel-corey-in-gaza-it-takes-an-american-death/161999/161 "2003-03-22T02:30:59Z")

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> But Blalron, many of those terrorists are “agents” of the PLO. Thus, their actions should reflect upon the “governement” of the “Palestinians”.

But are we giving the PLO billions of dollars in foreign aid? Are we standing by them not matter what they do?

It doesn’t matter whether the Palestinians “started” it or not, Israeli’s method of responding to terrorism is not appropriate and the U.S should not stand by Israel if they continue to do such things.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2003, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachel-corey-in-gaza-it-takes-an-american-death/161999/162 "2003-03-22T23:35:11Z")

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> \*Originally posted by errata \*  
> **This seems to me to say that the driver’s intentions and awareness are besides the point and Rachel was completely responsible for her own death by giving him the opportunity to kill her.**

I have a question. It’s not a question I have an answer for.

Say that instead of standing in front of the bulldozer, Corrie had been standing off to the side, still with a megaphone, but this time with a gun to her head. She makes it clear that if the bulldozer does its work, she will kill herself.

The bulldozer does its work. She kills herself.

Should the responsibilities for the result then be assigned differently?

Julie

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**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2003, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachel-corey-in-gaza-it-takes-an-american-death/161999/163 "2003-03-23T00:38:11Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jsgoddess \*  
> \*\*I have a question. It’s not a question I have an answer for.
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> Say that instead of standing in front of the bulldozer, Corrie had been standing off to the side, still with a megaphone, but this time with a gun to her head. She makes it clear that if the bulldozer does its work, she will kill herself.
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> The bulldozer does its work. She kills herself.
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> Should the responsibilities for the result then be assigned differently?
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> Julie \*\*

It’s a good question, js. After a little thought, I would say that in this scenario, the driver should _not_ be assigned responsibility. In this scenario, the instrument of death would quite literally be in Correy’s hands entirely. She alone would be responsible for her own death, and **this** time, there wouldn’t be any question of intentions.

Were the driver to give in to her demands and stop the tractor, it would actually cause **more** deaths, because it would inspire other protesters to go out and get their own guns to try the same thing. Giving in to Correy’s demands here would be like giving in to terrorists’ demands elsewhere. The only result would be to further embolden the terrorists.

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**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2003, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachel-corey-in-gaza-it-takes-an-american-death/161999/164 "2003-03-23T00:39:42Z")

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> The only result would be to further embolden the terrorists.

I meant, of course, embolden the **protesters**.

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**Author:** ![RandySpears](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/858c86/32.png) [@RandySpears](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandySpears)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2003, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachel-corey-in-gaza-it-takes-an-american-death/161999/165 "2003-03-23T00:48:59Z")

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Generally, in our civilized countries, we are not in the habit of running f. e. people conducting a sit-strike over i believe?

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