# Rachel Dolezal learns what life is really like for many blacks

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachel-dolezal-learns-what-life-is-really-like-for-many-blacks/780943>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 27, 2017, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachel-dolezal-learns-what-life-is-really-like-for-many-blacks/780943 "2017-02-27T13:04:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachel-dolezal-learns-what-life-is-really-like-for-many-blacks/780943/141 "2017-03-07T03:02:21Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> I think there is a difference between passing so that you can receive a basic level of dignity from everyone around you and passing so that you get special privileges, power, and/or attention. To me, Rachel is in the latter category. She could have immersed herself in black culture and been active in uplifting the community without lying about her background. But in her mind, this would have made her yet another “do gooder” white. Not special enough. Being a black woman in an almost white town = totally special!!!

This is the impression I have of her. It’s all about her.

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> (A while back, I expressed my feelings about passing in this [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=608659), by the way. It’s a complicated subject. But Rachel’s craziness and wrongness are pretty clear-cut.)

That was an interesting read. Thank you for the link. I missed it the first time around.

I know what it feels like to get the hell out of dodge because you don’t “fit it” or you want to escape some shitty situations. Psychologically it was just easier to me to leave the States than to deal with the craziness in my family.

I wonder if your hypothetical father wouldn’t have done better to move to Hawaii and married a Polynesian.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachel-dolezal-learns-what-life-is-really-like-for-many-blacks/780943/142 "2017-03-24T19:08:44Z")

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Okay, now her parents [made her eat vomit and wear dog](http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/03/24/rachel-dolezal-too-black-my-husband/99578982/).

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**Author:** ![bobtimusprime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/94ad74/32.png) [@bobtimusprime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobtimusprime)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachel-dolezal-learns-what-life-is-really-like-for-many-blacks/780943/143 "2017-03-24T19:21:23Z")

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Her marriage to a black man failed because she was too black for him? I think this woman is a quart low on sanity fluid.

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**Author:** ![sleestak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sleestak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleestak)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2017, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachel-dolezal-learns-what-life-is-really-like-for-many-blacks/780943/144 "2017-03-26T00:40:12Z")

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> [@Belowjob2.0](#):
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> Some black Americans have done this very thing: taking new names that are in fact pastiches of different African ethncities that have no relation to each other. In general, most black Americans are as uninformed about Africa as other Americans.

A good friend of mine, we were roommates for about two years a long time ago, came to the U.S. from South Africa and changed his name.

He picked the most American sounding name he could think of at the time. So he opted for…  
Wait for it…

Ivan.

He kept his last name which I cannot spell. Had lots of Ms and Z’s.

He moved back a few years ago. Need to ask if he still goes by Ivan…

Slee

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2017, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachel-dolezal-learns-what-life-is-really-like-for-many-blacks/780943/145 "2017-03-26T13:22:05Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Okay, now her parents [made her eat vomit and wear dog](http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/03/24/rachel-dolezal-too-black-my-husband/99578982/).

This will not end well for her.

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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2017, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachel-dolezal-learns-what-life-is-really-like-for-many-blacks/780943/146 "2017-03-26T15:32:45Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> I concede to your assessment of this person none of us have ever actually met.

If we acted on the implications in that statement we would cease to have any discussion or make any assessment at all about people none of us have met. Don’t you think that would make the board kinda boring?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2017, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachel-dolezal-learns-what-life-is-really-like-for-many-blacks/780943/147 "2017-03-27T13:22:42Z")

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> [@Ramira](#):
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> yes indeed. you are useless idiot who runs around preaching and trying to be some kind of moral scold, drawing the wide contempt of everyone because you are so annoyingly useless.
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> I prefer not to be explained or defended by you.
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> Derleth can make fun of my english all he wants, does not bother me at all.

“Shut up, **BigT**.” 😃

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2017, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachel-dolezal-learns-what-life-is-really-like-for-many-blacks/780943/148 "2017-03-27T13:28:23Z")

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> [@bobtimusprime](#):
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> Her marriage to a black man failed because she was too black for him? I think this woman is a quart low on sanity fluid.

Well, RACHEL DOLEZAL says her marriage failed because she was too black for him.

All evidence suggests Ms. Dolezal is not a reliable narrator.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2017, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachel-dolezal-learns-what-life-is-really-like-for-many-blacks/780943/149 "2017-03-27T14:12:20Z")

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> [@DerekMichaels00](#):
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> no offense, but you sound like a communist.

No offense, but go crawl back under your rock. Idiot.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2017, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachel-dolezal-learns-what-life-is-really-like-for-many-blacks/780943/150 "2017-03-27T15:03:43Z")

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> [@DerekMichaels00](#):
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> no offense, but you sound like a communist.

Unless you are o.k. with Communists in general, you are lying when you say “no offense”.

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**Author:** ![DavidModesto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c37758/32.png) [@DavidModesto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidModesto)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachel-dolezal-learns-what-life-is-really-like-for-many-blacks/780943/151 "2018-12-28T13:24:00Z")

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I would like to know if someone would have knowledge of any literature about dyslexia from the point of view of psychoanalysis.

thank you very much

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachel-dolezal-learns-what-life-is-really-like-for-many-blacks/780943/152 "2018-12-28T13:55:14Z")

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Welcome.  
It looks like you’ve posted in the wrong forum.  
This forum is basically for people to rant and rave and get things off their chest.  
One of the moderators will probably move it soon.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachel-dolezal-learns-what-life-is-really-like-for-many-blacks/780943/153 "2018-12-28T14:15:31Z")

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> [@BubbaDog](#):
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> Welcome.  
> It looks like you’ve posted in the wrong forum.  
> This forum is basically for people to rant and rave and get things off their chest.  
> One of the moderators will probably move it soon.

He also needs to start a new thread, since this one is about Rachel Dolezal, not dyslexia. 😃

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachel-dolezal-learns-what-life-is-really-like-for-many-blacks/780943/154 "2018-12-28T14:51:29Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> He also needs to start a new thread, since this one is about Rachel Dolezal, not dyslexia. 😃

Dolezal, dyslexia, whatever.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachel-dolezal-learns-what-life-is-really-like-for-many-blacks/780943/155 "2018-12-29T02:16:11Z")

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I’m sure Rachel will have a wonderful career if she explored mature porn.

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