# Rachelellogram: You're kidding, right?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachelellogram-youre-kidding-right/596467>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 16, 2011, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachelellogram-youre-kidding-right/596467 "2011-09-16T02:39:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachelellogram-youre-kidding-right/596467/21 "2011-09-16T16:38:10Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> I think what came across as “Two blind people getting together, how dare they!” was really, “Out of all the people my mother could hook up with, why did she have to pick a guy who’s in worse shape than she is in and can’t help her a bit?”

This is what I got too, and frankly I can understand her angst.

She’s happy that her mom has a new beau but for the love of Pete could she have fallen for someone that didn’t need **Rachel** to taxi him around?!?!

You know, mom gets a new guy, **Rachel** is thinking ‘Awesome! Maybe he can help out with her appointments and stuff.’ and instead it turns out that she has _ANOTHER_ person she needs to ferry about. Yah, I feel her pain.

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**Author:** ![6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/6/e19adc/32.png) [@6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachelellogram-youre-kidding-right/596467/22 "2011-09-16T17:11:55Z")

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Crotch stink stuck in a way that polyester pants can only dream of.

Of all the threads in all the interwebs, I had to read \*that \*one. It was mesmerising though.

This whingey one about the blind leading the blind, not so much. Either be the ‘good’ daughter and do it graciously; or do it resentfully and set some ground rules so you can do it graciously next time. Or don’t do it at all.

I’d rather smell the burning martyr than those fucking stink pants though.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachelellogram-youre-kidding-right/596467/23 "2011-09-16T18:09:32Z")

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> [@Paranoid\_Randroid](#):
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> Do you wanna have a polyester crotch-stink?  
> Or would you rather hang your head and drink?  
> Do you want to find alligator crotch perfume they just put on sale?  
> Do you want to cross your legs, keep your crotch-stink from flying from here?

Now that was an obscure reference.

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**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachelellogram-youre-kidding-right/596467/24 "2011-09-16T18:10:40Z")

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The part that really bothered me was:

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> The problem I have is that the time she’s spending with him is NOT time that she’s investing into finding a sighted boyfriend who is local and can help her out with the basic shit.

If you don’t want to help your mother out, then you need to set boundaries with her. But expecting her to find a sighted boyfriend to be her personal assistant is just creepy and wrong.

When I read about her mother having a blind boyfriend, I saw it as sweet. My blind grandmother found a _deaf_ husband when she was almost 80, and often joked that it was the perfect relationship – she couldn’t see him, and he couldn’t hear her. There is no reason why **rachelellogram** should have to chauffeur her mother’s boyfriend if she doesn’t want to. But she has no right to set restrictions on her mother’s love life.

I have noticed a distinct level of creepiness in many of her postings lately.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachelellogram-youre-kidding-right/596467/25 "2011-09-16T18:53:57Z")

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I have no opinion here, I just like the word-sound of Rilchiam pitting Rachelellogram. What’s next, Rick pitting Bricker? An Arky pitting Anaamika? Or, heavens forbid, Argent Towers pitting Agent Foxtrot!

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**Author:** ![Crown\_Prince\_of\_Irony](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ed655f/32.png) [@Crown\_Prince\_of\_Irony](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crown_Prince_of_Irony)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachelellogram-youre-kidding-right/596467/26 "2011-09-16T19:08:38Z")

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> [@Rhythmdvl](#):
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> I have no opinion here, I just like the word-sound of Rilchiam pitting Rachelellogram. What’s next, Rick pitting Bricker? An Arky pitting Anaamika? Or, heavens forbid, Argent Towers pitting Agent Foxtrot!

Or (not that I’ve done anything to deserve it, I hope) **Crowbar of Irony +3** pitting yours truly - that would be kinda cool, actually.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachelellogram-youre-kidding-right/596467/27 "2011-09-16T19:12:45Z")

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> [@Crown\_Prince\_of\_Irony](#):
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> Or (not that I’ve done anything to deserve it, I hope) **Crowbar of Irony +3** pitting yours truly - that would be kinda cool, actually.

Oh please please please say something pitworthy!

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachelellogram-youre-kidding-right/596467/28 "2011-09-16T19:13:44Z")

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> [@Enderw24](#):
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> Now that was an obscure reference.

I liked her crotch stink before it went mainstream.

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**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachelellogram-youre-kidding-right/596467/29 "2011-09-16T19:15:01Z")

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> [@SpoilerVirgin](#):
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> The part that really bothered me was: If you don’t want to help your mother out, then you need to set boundaries with her. But expecting her to find a sighted boyfriend to be her personal assistant is just creepy and wrong.

I’ll concur with that. The wording she chose to describe her mother’s new relationship gave off a barely-hidden smell of “woe-is-me”:

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> Don’t ask me how they happened to meet each other, it makes me (metaphorically) sick to think about it. […] Oh, the bitchings I could bitch about how she’s spending time with a non-sighted person. But when love strikes, I guess it’s not necessarily without a tinge of irony.

Sucks that the mother expects her to cart the boyfriend around, that seems thoughtless indeed, but seriously? Her mother finds someone she likes and all **Rachelellogram** can think about is how inconvenient the particular choice was? Was she was really expecting her mother to find an unpaid servant?

Unless there’s some kind of bizarre backstory, it seems just … mean-spirited to have “bitchings” to “bitch” about spending time with a blind guy.

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**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachelellogram-youre-kidding-right/596467/30 "2011-09-16T19:35:46Z")

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> [@SpoilerVirgin](#):
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> … My blind grandmother found a _deaf_ husband when she was almost 80, and often joked that it was the perfect relationship – she couldn’t see him, and he couldn’t hear her…

Oh, my stars. Details, please. How the heck did they communicate? Did they get married in their 80s? Pleasepleaseplease come back with more…

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachelellogram-youre-kidding-right/596467/31 "2011-09-16T19:55:54Z")

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> [@Paranoid\_Randroid](#):
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> Sucks that the mother expects her to cart the boyfriend around, that seems thoughtless indeed, but seriously? Her mother finds someone she likes and all **Rachelellogram** can think about is how inconvenient the particular choice was? Was she was really expecting her mother to find an unpaid servant?

I see it as kind of like having a sibling who’s always bumming a ride off of you. Then she tells you she met this great guy, who is totally awesome. Oh, he also has no car, can you give us a ride to the movies?

Like Rocky said “Together, we fill gaps.” You kind of hope her sweetie fills gaps, rather than having the gaps line up like a rifling pattern on CSI, so you’re still the one to filling in for the two of them.

Yes it’s selfish, but it’s not terrible to feel selfish once in a while.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachelellogram-youre-kidding-right/596467/32 "2011-09-16T20:02:33Z")

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You need to be pitted by **Sleestak**.

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachelellogram-youre-kidding-right/596467/33 "2011-09-16T20:11:30Z")

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And no one has linked to the crotch stink? NO ONE?!?!? Who _are_ you people?

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachelellogram-youre-kidding-right/596467/34 "2011-09-16T20:13:21Z")

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> [@DianaG](#):
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> And no one has linked to the crotch stink? NO ONE?!?!? Who _are_ you people?

:: wiggles helplessly against cross, unable to pull hands free the nails ::

I am Spartacus. I cannot speak for anybody else.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachelellogram-youre-kidding-right/596467/35 "2011-09-16T20:14:40Z")

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> [@Paranoid\_Randroid](#):
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> Huh. I seem to recall her being a reasonable poster, but maybe my mind isn’t what it used to be. What a judgmental fucking bitch.

Nope. Judgmental snatch to the mega, and about my fourth of fifth least favorite poster here. Seems like in every thread, she’s dishing out advice on how people should lead their lives, rachel-knows-besting everyone to death, yet she’s a five-star fuck up who can’t seem to get any aspect of her life together. You name it and she’s been a ruinous failure at it: her career, education, housing, relationships, health, take your pick.

When I noticed I was incapable of responding to her sans-snark, I started ignoring her altogether. She’s not a useful human being in any manner.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachelellogram-youre-kidding-right/596467/36 "2011-09-16T20:17:51Z")

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> [@DianaG](#):
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> And no one has linked to the crotch stink? NO ONE?!?!? Who _are_ you people?

[As you wish.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=600177&highlight=crotch+stink)

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**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachelellogram-youre-kidding-right/596467/37 "2011-09-16T20:19:10Z")

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> [@DianaG](#):
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> And no one has linked to the crotch stink? NO ONE?!?!? Who _are_ you people?

Yes, I know I’m going to regret this, but… link?

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachelellogram-youre-kidding-right/596467/38 "2011-09-16T20:21:16Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> Nope. Judgmental snatch to the mega, and about my fourth of fifth least favorite poster here. Seems like in every thread, she’s dishing out advice on how people should lead their lives, rachel-knows-besting everyone to death, yet she’s a five-star fuck up who can’t seem to get any aspect of her life together. You name it and she’s been a ruinous failure at it: her career, education, housing, relationships, health, take your pick.
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> When I noticed I was incapable of responding to her sans-snark, I started ignoring her altogether. She’s not a useful human being in any manner.

_Come on now_ - don’t sugar coat it - really let it out, tell us how you feel.  
😃

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachelellogram-youre-kidding-right/596467/39 "2011-09-16T20:24:50Z")

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Based on her posting history here, it would appear that some self-examination may be beneficial. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Implicit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Implicit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Implicit)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rachelellogram-youre-kidding-right/596467/40 "2011-09-16T20:45:09Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> Nope. Judgmental snatch to the mega, and about my fourth of fifth least favorite poster here. Seems like in every thread, she’s dishing out advice on how people should lead their lives, rachel-knows-besting everyone to death, yet she’s a five-star fuck up who can’t seem to get any aspect of her life together. You name it and she’s been a ruinous failure at it: her career, education, housing, relationships, health, take your pick.
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> When I noticed I was incapable of responding to her sans-snark, I started ignoring her altogether. She’s not a useful human being in any manner.

This. I’ve had her ignored since January when she whined incessantly about her landlord moving a picture. Looks like that was a good call since it saved me from her crotch stink.

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