# Racism through the eyes of a European footballer **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 23, 2004, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racism-through-the-eyes-of-a-european-footballer/276254 "2004-11-23T09:25:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2004, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racism-through-the-eyes-of-a-european-footballer/276254/41 "2004-11-26T06:38:56Z")
> [@Rune](#): > > Well. Then we’ll just have to agree to disagree. I’m sure there are less rough football clubs out there that cater to more refined tastes than mine… This would be a valid argument if football existed in a vacuum, but it doesn’t. Many British clubs, including those with the worst histories of racism, are in the middle of racially-diverse areas, areas which have deep and increasing divides along race and ethnic lines. To pretend that these white-male-welcoming clubs are somehow separate from all of this is wishful thinking. ---
**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racism-through-the-eyes-of-a-european-footballer/276254/42 "2004-12-02T13:48:02Z")
> [@GorillaMan](#): > > There’s quite a few of us still around, just mainly outside of the M25 😉 There’s a world outside the M25? ---
**Author:** ![owlstretchingtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/958977/32.png) [@owlstretchingtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/owlstretchingtime)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racism-through-the-eyes-of-a-european-footballer/276254/43 "2004-12-02T13:59:25Z")
> [@garius](#): > > There’s a world outside the M25? There is - but don’t go there, it’s grim up north. Grim I tells you. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racism-through-the-eyes-of-a-european-footballer/276254/44 "2004-12-02T14:01:25Z")
> [@owlstretchingtime](#): > > There is - but don’t go there, it’s grim up north. Grim I tells you. only to southern pansies. Us northerners find it quite congenial 😉 ---
**Author:** ![owlstretchingtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/958977/32.png) [@owlstretchingtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/owlstretchingtime)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racism-through-the-eyes-of-a-european-footballer/276254/45 "2004-12-02T14:05:36Z")
> [@One And Only Wanderers](#): > > only to southern pansies. Us northerners find it quite congenial 😉 But you are strange tripe-eating web-footed creatures with unfortunate haircuts. You know not what you do. ---
**Author:** ![SentientMeat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SentientMeat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SentientMeat)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racism-through-the-eyes-of-a-european-footballer/276254/46 "2004-12-02T15:34:57Z")
Pay no attention, **OAOW**. Their effete daintiness comes from their overwhelmingly French heritage. ---
**Author:** ![owlstretchingtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/958977/32.png) [@owlstretchingtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/owlstretchingtime)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racism-through-the-eyes-of-a-european-footballer/276254/47 "2004-12-02T17:08:36Z")
> [@SentientMeat](#): > > Pay no attention, **OAOW**. Their effete daintiness comes from their overwhelmingly French heritage. Bien sur, monsieur viand sentir. Good lovers, good looking women, good climate, decent food. It’s got half Irish/ half viking knocked into a cocked hat (une chapeau cockade n’est-ce pas?) Owl - a happy frog. ---
**Author:** ![SentientMeat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SentientMeat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SentientMeat)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racism-through-the-eyes-of-a-european-footballer/276254/48 "2004-12-02T17:25:01Z")
…and characteristically French surrenderability to those Irish Norsemen, especially when it comes to penalties. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racism-through-the-eyes-of-a-european-footballer/276254/49 "2004-12-02T17:25:06Z")
> [@SentientMeat](#): > > Pay no attention, **OAOW**. Their effete daintiness comes from their overwhelmingly French heritage. Ffffft. We’re all Saxons around here. Except me, a celtic interloper. It’s them damn landownder types that have all the French blood 😛 ---
**Author:** ![owlstretchingtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/958977/32.png) [@owlstretchingtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/owlstretchingtime)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racism-through-the-eyes-of-a-european-footballer/276254/50 "2004-12-02T17:37:18Z")
> [@SentientMeat](#): > > …and characteristically French surrenderability to those Irish Norsemen, especially when it comes to penalties. 🙂 Sacre Blue! Quelle domage! Actually it’s them bloody Malians who cause all the problems. Mort au Mali! (and where’s Pongolle from again?) ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racism-through-the-eyes-of-a-european-footballer/276254/51 "2004-12-02T17:59:19Z")
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