# Racist Coverage of Waco Biker Violence

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 20, 2015, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441 "2015-05-20T19:30:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/1 "2015-05-20T19:30:43Z")

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Well, Sally Kohn on CNN’s page has managed to turn the Waco bloodbath into a racial issue. It seems the lack of the mention of “white on white” violence in the media coverage is more proof that America is a racist country. “The race of the gang members isn’t even mentioned!” she cries. What. The. Fuck.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/2 "2015-05-20T19:56:29Z")

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So, you think that if the gangs had been comprised mostly of African-Americans, that wouldn’t have been part of the story?

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/3 "2015-05-20T20:01:34Z")

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> [@MikeF](#):
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> Well, Sally Kohn on CNN’s page has managed to turn the Waco bloodbath into a racial issue. It seems the lack of the mention of “white on white” violence in the media coverage is more proof that America is a racist country. “The race of the gang members isn’t even mentioned!” she cries. What. The. Fuck.

The point, you have missed it.

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**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/4 "2015-05-20T20:07:35Z")

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Aren’t the Cossacks Ukrainian and the Banditos Hispanic?

If not, I for one will no longer respect the colors they wear! And I am not quite sure of the historical animosity between these two groups.

Did I miss a war in history class?

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/5 "2015-05-20T20:33:39Z")

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While I think there’s a valid point in that the race of the participants wasn’t mentioned, for the record [not all of them were white.](http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article5721176.ece/ALTERNATES/s950/waco-biker-shooting-main.jpg) A few were black, and many Hispanic (including two of the dead). Here are the[mugshots.](http://edition.cnn.com/2015/05/19/us/gallery/texas-biker-mugshots/)

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/6 "2015-05-20T21:21:06Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> While I think there’s a valid point in that the race of the participants wasn’t mentioned, for the record [not all of them were white.](http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article5721176.ece/ALTERNATES/s950/waco-biker-shooting-main.jpg) A few were black, and many Hispanic (including two of the dead). Here are the[mugshots.](http://edition.cnn.com/2015/05/19/us/gallery/texas-biker-mugshots/)

Maybe it’s just me, but that link froze up my computer.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/7 "2015-05-20T21:38:37Z")

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Your computer is racist.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/8 "2015-05-20T21:54:29Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> Your computer is racist.

It’s part black!

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/9 "2015-05-20T21:54:30Z")

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Yesterday that cunt with the perpetual smirk was complaining that nobody was calling the bikers “thugs”. I guess “gang member” just doesn’t cut it.

I’m with you. What the fuck? I guess I miss whatever point there is also.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/10 "2015-05-20T21:57:21Z")

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> [@MikeF](#):
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> Well, Sally Kohn on CNN’s page has managed to turn the Waco bloodbath into a racial issue. It seems the lack of the mention of “white on white” violence in the media coverage is more proof that America is a racist country. “The race of the gang members isn’t even mentioned!” she cries. What. The. Fuck.

And I don’t recall any described as thugs. Maybe if they had been carrying protest signs . . .

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/11 "2015-05-20T21:58:17Z")

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Not only are they thugs, they are cisgendered thugs!

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/12 "2015-05-20T21:58:32Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Yesterday that cunt with the perpetual smirk

Like that narrows it down.

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> was complaining that nobody was calling the bikers “thugs”. I guess “gang member” just doesn’t cut it.
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> I’m with you. What the fuck? I guess I miss whatever point there is also.

In that case, I suspect she was weighing in on the matter of “thug” being increasingly, even overwhelmingly, reserved in the media and common parlance as a synonym for “young black man.”  
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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/13 "2015-05-20T22:02:31Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Not only are they thugs, they are cisgendered thugs!

Dude. You don’t know that for sure. Check your privilege.

😛

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/14 "2015-05-20T22:13:52Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Maybe it’s just me, but that link froze up my computer.

It’s to the Mirror in the UK. [This one has a similar image.](http://kxxv.images.worldnow.com/images/7808349_G.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/15 "2015-05-20T22:31:36Z")

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I’m concerned about the lack of Asians in these gangs.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/16 "2015-05-20T23:46:43Z")

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Fox news says they can’t be called thugs because that word comes out of the black community.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/17 "2015-05-20T23:46:56Z")

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Coming soon: _Harold and Kumar go to Sturgis!_

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/18 "2015-05-20T23:53:24Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Fox news says they can’t be called thugs because that word comes out of the black community.

😕 It comes out of [India](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thuggee). And I have never in my life heard a black use it (perhaps I would have if I listened to rap or hip-hop).

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/19 "2015-05-20T23:57:22Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> While I think there’s a valid point in that the race of the participants wasn’t mentioned, for the record [not all of them were white.](http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article5721176.ece/ALTERNATES/s950/waco-biker-shooting-main.jpg) A few were black, and many Hispanic (including two of the dead). Here are the[mugshots.](http://edition.cnn.com/2015/05/19/us/gallery/texas-biker-mugshots/)

One of the black bikers is an ex-police officer.

:eek:

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/20 "2015-05-20T23:58:19Z")

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I hate it when the news media fail to mention the races of those worthy enough to make the news. Fucking racists, the lot of them.  
Wait now, anti racists, I meant to say.  
Let me generate my outrage anew…  
I hate it when the news media points out that others in the news media have failed to mention the races of those worthy enough to make the news. Fucking racists, the lot of them.  
Oh fuck, this is confusing. I sympathise with the op’s newsperson: pretending to be outraged about racism is haaard!

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