# Racist Coverage of Waco Biker Violence

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 20, 2015, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441 "2015-05-20T19:30:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![The\_Understander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3da27b/32.png) [@The\_Understander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Understander)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/61 "2015-05-21T13:15:12Z")

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> [@Grumman](#):
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> What a bunch of fucking morons. Even if these gangs _were_ white and not a variety of ethnicities, _the white community is not siding with the gangs_. White people aren’t throwing firebombs at police, white people aren’t looting stores, white people aren’t threatening to murder the police who shot the bikers. If you don’t want to be associated with robbers and drug dealers, don’t throw self-destructive tantrums in their name.

LOL I love it. Protesting the harsher treatment by police of nonwhites is a tantrum. A guy selling loose cigarettes is a drug dealer. And a minority of rioters is just cause to associate all members of a race with robbers and drug dealers.

You stupid bitch. You’re part of the problem.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/62 "2015-05-21T15:19:41Z")

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[More relevant toons.](http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026705209)

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/63 "2015-05-21T15:25:54Z")

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So, no one is claiming police brutality because the cops opened fire on this group of fine upstanding citizens?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/64 "2015-05-21T15:31:09Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> So, no one is claiming police brutality because the cops opened fire on this group of fine upstanding citizens?

Well, _obviously_ the bikers were being completely peaceful until the cops showed up and acted all militarized.

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**Author:** ![The\_Understander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3da27b/32.png) [@The\_Understander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Understander)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/65 "2015-05-21T15:40:18Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> So, no one is claiming police brutality because the cops opened fire on this group of fine upstanding citizens?

Perhaps they’d gain more traction in the court of public opinion had they been carrying signs instead of guns and knives.

Crazy, I know.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/66 "2015-05-21T16:01:17Z")

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> [@The\_Understander](#):
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> LOL I love it. Protesting the harsher treatment by police of nonwhites is a tantrum. A guy selling loose cigarettes is a drug dealer. And a minority of rioters is just cause to associate all members of a race with robbers and drug dealers.

A guy selling loose cigarettes was committing a crime. A guy selling untaxed cigarettes was committing a crime. A guy resisting arrest was committing a crime. An overweight guy in poor health, suffers a heart attack while resisting arrest, and dies in the ambulance, on the way to the hospital, is an unfortunate victim of his own lifestyle and personal choices.

You can chose to identify him a drug dealer if you so chose.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/67 "2015-05-21T16:02:26Z")

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> [@The\_Understander](#):
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> Perhaps they’d gain more traction in the court of public opinion had they been carrying signs instead of guns and knives.
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> Crazy, I know.

Very crazy.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/68 "2015-05-21T16:12:27Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> No, that was a perfectly good and appropriate name that the OWSers chose for a **completely different** idea, and the outlaw biker scum held no copyright on the name.

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And where are the OWS scum now? What streets are they pooping on?

The 1% MC are still here and still breaking laws.

Would either group hire lawyers to settle copyright issues? Hmmm?

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**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/69 "2015-05-21T16:15:15Z")

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Great list of mugshots, CNN.

I really hope that is [this guy’s](http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/150520110505-47-martin-lewis-super-169.jpg) natural hair color. That’s totally rad.

So much male pattern baldness and stangry stares, not a handsome Jax Teller in sight.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/70 "2015-05-21T16:23:27Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> The 1% MC are still here and still breaking laws.

So is the upper-1%-in-income, and causing a **lot** more harm and grief in the process than biker outlaws ever could. What is your point?

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/71 "2015-05-21T16:31:49Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> You can chose to identify him a drug dealer if you so chose.

But that would mean you’re an idiot.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/72 "2015-05-21T17:13:37Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Well, _obviously_ the bikers were being completely peaceful until the cops showed up and acted all militarized.

The Great Texas Ambush of 2015! I can’t wait to read the dime novel.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/73 "2015-05-21T17:56:44Z")

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> [@The\_Understander](#):
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> …A guy selling loose cigarettes is a drug dealer.
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> …You stupid bitch. You’re part of the problem.

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> A guy selling loose cigarettes was committing a crime. A guy selling untaxed cigarettes was committing a crime. A guy resisting arrest was committing a crime. An overweight guy in poor health, suffers a heart attack while resisting arrest, and dies in the ambulance, on the way to the hospital, is an unfortunate victim of his own lifestyle and personal choices.
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> You can chose to identify him a drug dealer if you so chose.

(Underline added)

> [@Colibri](#):
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> But that would mean you’re an idiot.

You must be a Democrat. **The Understander** can chose to identify anyone as a drug dealer if he so choses, but you think someone else must be responsible for his poor decisions. :rolleyes: Don’t forget to give **The Understander** his trophy for participation.

Name-calling, the last resort of those who can’t think of anything else.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/74 "2015-05-21T18:09:35Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> You are such a dick. Do you pride yourself on it?

Get well soon.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/75 "2015-05-21T18:18:59Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Name-calling, the last resort of those who can’t think of anything else.

I guess you’re really not capable of seeing the irony there.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/76 "2015-05-21T19:05:36Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> I guess you’re really not capable of seeing the irony there.

Nor, indeed, the hypocrisy.  
**Doorhinge** , it was a sincere question. Are you proud of yourself for acting like a jerk? Do you think you’re scoring points or something?  
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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/77 "2015-05-21T19:12:42Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> Nor, indeed, the hypocrisy.  
> **Doorhinge** , it was a sincere question. Are you proud of yourself for acting like a jerk? Do you think you’re scoring points or something?  
> .

No, it wasn’t a sincere question. It was a personal attack that makes you look small, and petty.

Get well soon.

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**Author:** ![LinusK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@LinusK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LinusK)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/78 "2015-05-21T19:14:22Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Sorry, but you’re not the King of Language. In the US, almost every “black” person is part white, and the term is not meant to be an accurate description of someone’s genetics. but rather how a person self-identifies and is identified by society. On that measure, Obama is black.

Black with a white mother.

And… I think we have a case of the pot calling the kettle black, Mr. King.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/79 "2015-05-21T19:28:03Z")

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I for one am damn glad that those bikers just shot and killed each other, and didn’t do anything really heinous like smash the window of that restaurant instead. We white people sure have our priorities straight.

I’m also really glad that the bikers had all those guns for self protection. If they had been prevented from carrying, who knows what kind of trouble could have broken out?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/80 "2015-05-21T19:48:20Z")

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> [@LinusK](#):
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> And… I think we have a case of the pot calling the kettle black, Mr. King.

So, I guess we can put down “accurately using cliches” along with “understanding contemporary definitions of race,” as things you don’t have a very good grasp on.

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