# Racist Coverage of Waco Biker Violence **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 20, 2015, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441 "2015-05-20T19:30:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/81 "2015-05-21T19:58:01Z")
A few weeks ago, I was out at one of those wholesale outlets places. And as I am ready to check out, I see in front of me a Hells Angel. Full “colors”, the whole regalia right out of Altamont. Except he didn’t smell bad. Neatly trimmed beard. His regalia looked like it just got out of the dry cleaners. Clean fingernails. Fred from Accounts Receivable. Now, of course, this is Baja Canada\*, but still… Then I hear about these outlaw bikers gathering at a Hooters copycat bar. A family restaurant, sorta kinda. More like a fern bar than a “biker bar”. And I gotta wonder, WTF? A lot of them had guns? What, in Texas? No shit, what a shocker! Anyway, under circumstances of very limited information, right now I’m betting that almost all the guys who showed up were not really expecting some sort of rumble. Just getting together to strut, posture and show off their toys. Solid bet some of the cops personally knew some of the participants… “Hey, John Wesley, what the fuck?” “Damned if I know, Jim Bob! Was just standing here talking about home brew recipes with this good ol’ boy from the Bandidos, and all of a sudden all Hell broke loose!” And Waco? “Athens on the Brazos”? Odessa, sure, Fort Worth, uh huh, but _Waco_? None of this shit makes any sense at all! \*more commonly known as Minnesota ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/82 "2015-05-21T20:21:29Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > No, it wasn’t a sincere question. It was a personal attack that makes you look small, and petty. > > Get well soon. Wrong. I sincerely want to know what benefit you get when you act like an asshole. Or if you care. Would your mom be proud? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/83 "2015-05-21T20:29:00Z")
He doesn’t know, his mom has a restraining order on him, no contact, no closer than half a mile. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/84 "2015-05-21T20:40:09Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Well for that matter, who the hell is “white” other than Johnny Winter? In the dictionary, words have definitions, in our everyday language, sometimes yes, sometimes no. Umm…Edgar Winter? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/85 "2015-05-21T21:47:29Z")
> [@andros](#): > > Wrong. I sincerely want to know what benefit you get when you act like an asshole. Or if you care. Would your mom be proud? Does your mom know you’re gay? ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/86 "2015-05-21T22:06:00Z")
> [@andros](#): > > Wrong. I sincerely want to know what benefit you get when you act like an asshole. Or if you care. Would your mom be proud? Hahahaha. You’ve simply made another personal attack. You’re just getting smaller, and pettier. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/87 "2015-05-21T22:11:24Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > He doesn’t know, his mom has a restraining order on him, no contact, no closer than half a mile. My Mom passed away several years ago. Rest her soul. ☹ I guess your post makes you lower than **andros**. ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/88 "2015-05-21T22:18:27Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > What is your definition of a “black” person? > > Please be as specific as possible. That’s an easy one. Race is a social construct, not an anthropological one. You are the race you are seen as. If the cops had never seen Obama and pulled him over at 2:00 am, you can bet he’d be treated like a black person, ergo, he’s black. ---
**Author:** ![LinusK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@LinusK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LinusK)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/89 "2015-05-21T22:53:02Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > So, I guess we can put down “accurately using cliches” along with “understanding contemporary definitions of race,” as things you don’t have a very good grasp on. “We” are pompous. And your put-downs are stale, and tired. Put some effort into it. ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/90 "2015-05-21T23:04:23Z")
[The plot thickens.](http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/05/21/bikers-shown-fleeing-gunfire-guiding-others-to-safety-in-security-video-from/) From the AP/Fox News story: > [@](#): > > …According to restaurant security video shown to The Associated Press exclusively, only one of the dozens of bikers was seen firing a gun from the patio of the Twin Peaks restaurant where nine people were killed… > > …When gunshots start at 12:24 p.m. on the video, most bikers, other patrons and staff immediately run away from the windows and into the restaurant’s interior. At least three people can be seen holding handguns… And finally, > [@](#): > > "…Police have said that all those arrested were part of criminal motorcycle gangs, but only five of the nine people killed had criminal histories in Texas, based on court records and a search of their names in a database maintained by the Texas Department of Public Safety… Run the other four through NCIC, and I think it’ll be a different story. The link mentions that none of the nine video angles the AP reporters saw included the parking lot, where most of the shooting happened. I am still really surprised that practically none of the video, that had to be rolling of that parking lot, has leaked out yet. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/91 "2015-05-21T23:06:45Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > My Mom passed away several years ago. That’s just what she wants you to think. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/92 "2015-05-21T23:09:49Z")
> [@LinusK](#): > > “We” are pompous. And your put-downs are stale, and tired. Put some effort into it. “Pompous, tired, and stale,” sure. But I note you didn’t mention “inaccurate.” ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/93 "2015-05-21T23:19:52Z")
> [@LinusK](#): > > And your put-downs are stale, and tired. Put some effort into it. This from someone who thinks “Obama isn’t black” is an insightful comment. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/94 "2015-05-21T23:39:15Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > This from someone who thinks “Obama isn’t black” is an insightful comment. He appears to know as much about race as he does about economics (see series of GD threads). ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/95 "2015-05-22T00:41:19Z")
> [@Gray\_Ghost](#): > > I am still really surprised that practically none of the video, that had to be rolling of that parking lot, has leaked out yet. I’m surprised nobody appears to have caught any camera-phone video. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/96 "2015-05-22T00:53:30Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > Does your mom know you’re gay? 😕 Of course she does. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/97 "2015-05-22T00:54:44Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Hahahaha. You’ve simply made another personal attack. You’re just getting smaller, and pettier. Holy shit. You really _don’t_ get the irony, do you? Wow. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/98 "2015-05-22T02:26:24Z")
> [@andros](#): > > Holy shit. You really _don’t_ get the irony, do you? > > Wow. It’s a [Dunning-Kruger](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger) thing. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/99 "2015-05-22T02:30:27Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > My Mom passed away several years ago. Rest her soul. ☹ > > I guess your post makes you lower than **andros**. Man, and she still has a restraining order on you? That’s _harsh_. Sorry, I guess that makes me lower than **Elucidator**. It’s a fair cop. ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441/100 "2015-05-22T02:33:48Z")
> [@The\_Understander](#): > > LOL I love it. Protesting the harsher treatment by police of nonwhites is a tantrum. Setting fire to and robbing the stores which are necessary for your community to survive because some shithead robbed a convenience store and then got shot when he tried to rob a cop is throwing a tantrum. > [@](#): > > A guy selling loose cigarettes is a drug dealer. Freddie Gray had been convicted for manufacturing narcotics with the intent to distribute. Tobacco is not a narcotic. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-coverage-of-waco-biker-violence/720441.md?page=6)