# Racist plays race card

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-plays-race-card/312082>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 11, 2005, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-plays-race-card/312082 "2005-07-11T23:45:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-plays-race-card/312082/81 "2005-07-14T18:44:57Z")

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**Masterchief243** , have you considered decaf? Some of the newer roasts are just as good as the caffinated stuff.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-plays-race-card/312082/82 "2005-07-14T19:41:39Z")

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> [@masterchief243](#):
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> haha. now watch the thread die because everyones waiting for their hero george bush to tell them what to think some more.

Boy, you’ve sure got the Dope pegged.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-plays-race-card/312082/83 "2005-07-14T19:45:52Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> Boy, you’ve sure got the Dope pegged.

Wait, I thought that SDMB stood for ‘Shoot Democratic Muffin Bakers’. Are you telling me it isn’t?

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**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-plays-race-card/312082/84 "2005-07-14T20:01:23Z")

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**VegemiteMoose** , do not misattribute quotes, even to make a point.

Veb

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-plays-race-card/312082/85 "2005-07-14T20:11:28Z")

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**Adam** : Shhh. I’m trying to trick the guest. We can put back up the “Isn’t W just dreamy!?!” posters once he leaves.

> [@masterchief243](#):
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> lol

[OMGWTFROFLKTHNXBI](http://www.nonstick.com/sounds/Bugs_Bunny/ltbb_075.wav)

> [@masterchief243](#):
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> Haha! most of you guys here are nuts! i mean you just gotta be. you guys are liberal bullies. you guys just jump on this issue and latch on to defend your idealism. Hell! So what if he’s a nazi! so what if he thinks jews should be exterminated!

Make up your mind. Are we waiting for Bush to give us talking points, or liberal bullies? And, by the way moron, virtually all of my extended family was butchered by the Nazis, and I’d be one of the first who’d support their rights to free speech.

> [@masterchief243](#):
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> what i just dont get is how you guys can rush out and tell me to ease up on nazis while the most racist shit goes down on your side of the continent.

You mean… you’ve come to a message board where people argue for idelogical points of view? Pull me up a chair, I feel faint!

> [@masterchief243](#):
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> you let your hugely biased mainstream media to paint you a nice fiary tale story here and there

We let them to paint here and there.  
Yes.

> [@masterchief243](#):
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> i’ve been through compton’s rougher areas and i lived in the bahamas for a few years too.

Wow. You were in Compton. Luckily the entire country is just. Like. That.

> [@masterchief243](#):
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> what’s that you guys got set up to help the “brutha mans” out? affirmative action?! you set up a system where employers are forced to hire people based on their skin color not their integrity? then you want to call it equality in the workplace?!? lol lol…sounds like a band-aid situation. and if you’re FORCING someone to hire a person based on certain racial standards arent you repressing the freedoms of those that dont want to employ black people?

Jeez, you’re a moron. Despite what your walnut sized dollop of grey matter tells you, Americans are not marching in lockstep. We have a rather lively culture of debate and discussion, and I’d wager that if you were to somehow gain enough coherence to post an OP in GD, you’d see people arguing both sides of AA.

And, no, you must be right, surely afirmative action has never been debated on the boards. Nope. Naw aww. Never.

> [@masterchief243](#):
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> but dont tell me im flawed when people suffer in your society because of bigotry.

The situation is not binary. America has problems **and** you’re a corpse felching maggot brained child. ~shrugs~ Ah well, eh? Can’t win 'em all.

> [@masterchief243](#):
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> Point i was making was that all i hear is bitching about how canadians arent fair to nazis.

i spel gud!

Ahem.  
The point isn’t that “Canadians” are or aren’t anything, you’re the groupthinking moron here. The point is that we’re debating what free speech laws should and should not protect. Try to keep up.

> [@masterchief243](#):
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> and lol, just like evry other post ive ever been on, all i get is people dodging the issue that was brought up and make things all better with distracting links and all that.

Actually, you seem unable to comprehend the issue and to want to cast it in absolutely purile terms.

“lol. so um like if you dont like go out and march with the republicans then you dont really think that they should be allowed to march lol!”

You keep this up and you’ll make people appreciate **Scott Plaid**.

> [@masterchief243](#):
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> Just look at any old 50’s/ 40’s footage showing alot of white american people talking about integration or equal rights.

~checks calender~  
Yep, it’s still the 21st century.  
You could, also, see footage of whites marching along with blacks at Selma.

> [@masterchief243](#):
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> what about when the national guard had to be called to let students get taught at an all white high school those many years ago? you think those huge masses of people just went to another dimension? lol.

I live in the south right now, although those scum sucking fucks still exist, they’re not exactly mainstream anymore.

> [@masterchief243](#):
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> give me a break. sorry to break it to ya kiddies, those same people run your country now .

Your ignorance of American politics is probably only surprassed by your ignorance of proper hygiene.

1. America is not monolithic.
2. America is not run by monolithic forces.
3. The toothbrush goes in your mouth not up your ass.

> [@masterchief243](#):
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> lol. and the funny thing is, all those problems you guys have, you want to attack canadians that dont want nazis running around.

[Wow, you’re right.](http://www.nonstick.com/sounds/Bugs_Bunny/ltbb_103.wav)

Ahem. Did it ever cross your festering synapses that, oh, I dunno… we oppose racism in our country _and_ support free speech on ideoligical grounds? Didn’t think so.

> [@masterchief243](#):
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> how’s that whole “let freedom reign” thing going for you guys over in iraq?

Damn, you’ve got us pegged again! The only subject which is less controversal than George W. Bush is the Iraq war. We love it. Yep.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-plays-race-card/312082/86 "2005-07-14T20:11:33Z")

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> [@masterchief243](#):
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> IN CANADA…we do things a certain way…

I’d hate like hell for any of our American friends (like, say, an impressionable twenty-year-old in South Dakota,) to get the impression that you’re any kind of an accurate representative of Canadian attitudes towards Americans.

Stirring up cross-border ill-will is not something that any proper Canuck should aspire to.

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**Author:** ![VegemiteMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/df788c/32.png) [@VegemiteMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VegemiteMoose)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-plays-race-card/312082/87 "2005-07-14T20:12:00Z")

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Sorry **TVeblen** , I honestly missed that rule somehow. Won’t happen again.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-plays-race-card/312082/88 "2005-07-14T20:49:45Z")

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There are some rules which aren’t in stickies… 'least I don’t think they are. It’s a problem, and maybe one day I’ll go collect as many as I can and submit them with links so a mod can create a master faq. Right now, I’m lazy.

In any case: welcome to the Dope!

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**Author:** ![VegemiteMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/df788c/32.png) [@VegemiteMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VegemiteMoose)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-plays-race-card/312082/89 "2005-07-14T21:06:24Z")

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Thanks **FinnAgain**.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-plays-race-card/312082/90 "2005-07-14T21:10:58Z")

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No prob **Moose**. The Dope is one of the best sites on the 'net, probably the best message board, definitely the best I’ve ever seen. We can always use new blood, and you seem to have a good head on your shoulder. I hope you consider signing up to be a member when your guest membership expires. If you can’t afford it, sometimes you can post a message in About This Message Board and others will float your bill for you.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-plays-race-card/312082/91 "2005-07-14T21:13:16Z")

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Erm, I also assume you have two shoulders 😃

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**Author:** ![VegemiteMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/df788c/32.png) [@VegemiteMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VegemiteMoose)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-plays-race-card/312082/92 "2005-07-14T21:21:49Z")

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I pretty much **have** to sign up. I’m used to using thread subscriptions now and I won’t go back, I won’t I tell ya!

I’ve got the cost covered though.

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**Author:** ![masterchief243](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ebca7d/32.png) [@masterchief243](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/masterchief243)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-plays-race-card/312082/93 "2005-07-15T13:55:27Z")

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well, you guys have done it again. all i read so far were a couple of hippies taking what i said out of context and telling me how wonderful their country is so of course it’s okay to tell us lowly canadians what to do and ho we should make our laws.  
morans. lol. i saw that on a republican poster. it said “get a life morans”.  
anyway. dont tell me about what advances you’ve made in your country. you’re still not there yet. nobody is. that’s what im trying to get across. when i first read this thread people were saying that canadians shouldnt have an anti-hate speech law.  
i disagreed. i was just stating that a majority of canadians dont disagree with the law that passed. lol i never said ALL canadians didnt disagree.  
so let’s see…for defending my country’s rights as a sovereign nation to make its own decisions concerning protecting jews from unneccessary public discriminations…  
ive been called an intolerant asshole, anti-american, anti-freedom, idiot, bigot,…nazi(!?!)…and so forth.  
someone told me to post here because these were arguably the best message boards on the net. i guess he was strictly pertaining to the Great Debates forum. alot of closed minds in here.

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**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-plays-race-card/312082/94 "2005-07-15T14:07:13Z")

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This is exactly what you don’t get, moran.

If the majority ruled all the time (like you seem to be saying works so well for you), I think we’d vote to shut you the hell up. Instead, you get to voice your opinion. Know why? Because opinions aren’t dangerous – only actions are. No one here’s barring you from voicing your opinion because we realize that discourse is healthy and good. And yes, we’re offering up our own opinions in return. That’s what makes it work.

I find it pretty ironic that the very thing you’re arguing against is what’s allowing you to make your argument.

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**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-plays-race-card/312082/95 "2005-07-15T14:19:32Z")

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> [@masterchief243](#):
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> well, you guys have done it again. all i read so far were a couple of hippies taking what i said out of context and telling me how wonderful their country is so of course it’s okay to tell us lowly canadians what to do and ho we should make our laws.

Unbelievable. The only one here who has been claiming their country is better than anyone else’s is you.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-plays-race-card/312082/96 "2005-07-15T15:01:36Z")

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Chiefey, you’re a moron.  
If you’re put forward your positions in GD, you’d be Pitted for sure or at least ridiculed. You still can’t get it through your neutron dense skull that someone can think it should be legally allowed for Nazis to march without having to hold up a sign telling people not to launch a counter picket.

You’re a fucking mental midget. Go away.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-plays-race-card/312082/97 "2005-07-15T15:06:25Z")

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D’oh!  
“If you’re _going to_ put forward…”

The fact remains, you’re no Doper. You’re of sub-standard intelligence. You’re a festering pile of ignorance. And you should most certainly not hang around once your guest membership is up. Leave. Go to a cartoon message board or something.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-plays-race-card/312082/98 "2005-07-15T16:41:48Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> Go to a cartoon message board or something.

Or maybe you could get around to stinking up that [_other_ SD MB](http://www.argusleaderonline.com/forum/member.php?u=2947). You know, the local interest one in Sioux Falls.

That could work.

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**Author:** ![Balle\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/13edae/32.png) [@Balle\_M](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balle_M)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-plays-race-card/312082/99 "2005-07-15T17:32:29Z")

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> [@masterchief243](#):
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> Just what are you talking about? i’m not some imbecile with a slew of errors on my part. I even capitalise at the beginning fo every sentence.

> [@masterchief243](#):
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> I love freedom of speech. noones contending that. what im saying is that most people from my country dont want totally unrestricted free speech…with good reason.
> 
> would you give a child whatever they want all the time? no you wouldnt…you might get along fine in your generation but future ones born into the sytem you gotta think about too.
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> and hell, im not even saying our way is right and yours is wrong. its our way and it just happens to differ from yours. why doesnt anybody understand that?

Wanna rephrase that first bit?

I don’t have to be waving a “Hooray for the Ku Kluxers!” banner to support their right to free speech…I merely have to demand that they be allowed to express their views. I personally know 2 klansmen and I would like nothing better than to get these guys an audience so that the general public would find out that their pre-conceived notions of klansman as functionally illiterate slackjawed yokels is correct in every respect.

And, FWIW,

On the American political spectrum I’m on the far right wing but I’ve opposed the bullshit “free speech zones” from day 1.

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**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-plays-race-card/312082/100 "2005-07-15T19:08:08Z")

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> [@Uzi](#):
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> Excuse me? Where have I been a bigot here? You must be confusing me with the masterchief, I think.

Sorry, the “Your” was supposed to be a generalization about the type of person who does that, I didn’t mean to inferr you said anything.

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