# Racist riots and unrest in the UK **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 5, 2024, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-riots-and-unrest-in-the-uk/1005291 "2024-08-05T20:00:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-riots-and-unrest-in-the-uk/1005291/21 "2024-08-06T19:48:06Z")
Fetch the smaller of my two violins. I mean, I guess it’s bad that racists exist, and are targeting anyone, but Andrew Tate is stirring up the hornet’s nest himself, then complaining he got stung. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-riots-and-unrest-in-the-uk/1005291/22 "2024-08-06T19:50:11Z")
There always seems to be a bit of opportunistic looting and either undirected or misdirected general vandalism and destruction when there is civil unrest here. ---
**Author:** ![Mk\_VII](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Mk\_VII](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mk_VII)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-riots-and-unrest-in-the-uk/1005291/23 "2024-08-06T20:39:55Z")
We will probably see a call for tighter knife control. It was already being talked about before. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-riots-and-unrest-in-the-uk/1005291/24 "2024-08-06T21:02:22Z")
Maybe, although given the seriousness of the injuries in the Stockport attack, its likely the weapon was already on the banned list. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2024, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-riots-and-unrest-in-the-uk/1005291/25 "2024-08-07T16:53:45Z")
That’s deliciously on point. Bloody Farage. I’ve farted more eloquent and agreeable things than anything he says. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-riots-and-unrest-in-the-uk/1005291/26 "2024-08-08T09:53:59Z")
What seems to be happening now is that there are large-scale, peaceful, anti-racist demonstrations or counter-protests happening - and the turnout for these is vastly outnumbering the racist wankers. Hopefully this will set them scurrying back under the rocks. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-riots-and-unrest-in-the-uk/1005291/27 "2024-08-08T10:15:43Z")
The current right-wing line is “fascist police are locking up patriots just for saying that illegal immigrants shouldn’t be allowed to rape women and murder children”. There’s no basis whatsoever for this, but when has that ever stopped the far-right? ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-riots-and-unrest-in-the-uk/1005291/28 "2024-08-08T11:22:38Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > A rumour circulated that the attacker was an undocumented immigrant and this sparked a series of riots and violent protests by various far right groups, attacking police, Muslims, non-white people in general and destroying hotels and other places where asylum seekers are housed; this has spread to other locations across the country. Given the demonstrable falsehood of this rumor, this is the kind of news that’s perfect for the “Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread” thread. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-riots-and-unrest-in-the-uk/1005291/29 "2024-08-08T11:36:24Z")
When riots and violent attacks are literally happening, anyome whose narrative isnt ‘just fucking stop that’ is part of the problem. ‘Ooh, but people have legitimate concerns’ is something to possibly talk about, at some calm and rational opportunity, but if anyone says that when the riots and attacks are actually going on, and especially if they dont say ‘stop’, then all theyre just trying to do is to legitimise and support the ongoing problem. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-riots-and-unrest-in-the-uk/1005291/30 "2024-08-08T11:42:02Z")
And dont even get me started on ‘but whyyyy are the police responding specifically to _racist_ riots? Surely _all_ riots need police response’ anyone who says that, on top of what i said above, is a contemptible moron. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-riots-and-unrest-in-the-uk/1005291/31 "2024-08-08T11:53:37Z")
Particularly as all riots _do_ get a police response. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-riots-and-unrest-in-the-uk/1005291/32 "2024-08-08T13:46:16Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > Is it too soon to ask how much of this is foreign (read: Russian) meddling? There is a wave of xenophobia, racism, and fascism in the US, the UK, and most European nations. I have also wondered if Russia is behind it. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-riots-and-unrest-in-the-uk/1005291/33 "2024-08-08T14:10:12Z")
It’s always been there but Russia has been stoking it up across the West for years. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-riots-and-unrest-in-the-uk/1005291/34 "2024-08-08T14:14:12Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > . I have also wondered if Russia is behind it. Perhaps not originating or inspiring them, but there was a lot of anxiety that a list of 30+ immigration lawyers and advice/support organisations had been published on Telegram, encouraging some sort of gathering outside them, with some speculation that Russians might be stirring the pot. Now that the first [sentences have been handed down](https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/aug/18/full-picture-of-riot-sentences), and there have been such massive counter-protests, it might die down, but TPTB are keeping up precautions: > **[Starmer to hold another COBRA meeting to prepare for further protests](https://news.sky.com/story/starmer-to-hold-another-cobra-meeting-to-prepare-for-further-protests-13193215)** > > Far-right protests on Wednesday night did not materialise as thousands of extra police officers were drafted in and counter-protesters marched peacefully in most places. I posted this on the other UK politics thread, but it bears a replay: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/asEpdjq-7O8/maxresdefault.jpg "Gammolympics😂 #edl #ukriots #uk #racismawareness #tommyrobinson #tommy #islam #islamophobia #funny") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asEpdjq-7O8) ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-riots-and-unrest-in-the-uk/1005291/35 "2024-08-08T14:32:32Z")
With a healthy assist from Murdoch. ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-riots-and-unrest-in-the-uk/1005291/36 "2024-08-09T19:40:34Z")
News from this evening’s anti-immigration protest in Crawley (due south of London, half way to the sea). Per the local news reports and facebook, the protesters were outnumbered by… ice cream vans (two to one)\*. There were also several hundred anti-racism protesters, who ate free ice creams and food prepared by the local south Asian community. > **[Crawley sees hundreds of anti-racism protesters at hotel demo](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgrk1zyzkgo)** > > Anti-racism protesters travelled to Crawley from Brighton for the demo run by Stands Up to Racism. j \* Number of protester(s) - BBC TV local news; number of ice cream vans and free food supplies - facebook ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-riots-and-unrest-in-the-uk/1005291/37 "2024-08-10T14:26:23Z")
Correction: it appears that there were originally four anti-immigration protesters, but > Following a small anti-immigration protest at the location, a 40-year-old-man was arrested on suspicion of threatening or abusive behaviour contrary to the Public Order Act and remains in custody, it said. > > Two further men were escorted away from the area by police and were issued with a Section 35 dispersal order. - which is why, I guess, local TV on the scene reported a single protester. So at one point anti-immigration protesters _did_ outnumber ice cream vans. Just barely. Source: [Crawley demonstration passes peacefully outside hotel, say police - BBC News](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c23l83pl02vo) j ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-riots-and-unrest-in-the-uk/1005291/38 "2024-08-10T20:18:49Z")
I went shopping to Weymouth today (a town that was host to some of the disorder and racist stuff last week) and happened upon a quite large group of anti-racist folks handing out flyers and invitations to a variety of cross-cultural music and food events that appear to have been planned as a defiant response to the gammons. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-riots-and-unrest-in-the-uk/1005291/39 "2024-08-15T10:38:58Z")
Originally, active, unapologetic racists were all over my usually MAGA-filled Twitter feed (because I debunk MAGA nonsense). They’ve since vacillated back and forth from those and the more disguised posts that make it about police overreach, saying they just have “differnet opinions,” and even saying they’re nonviolent and just want to talk. But then they go back to saying things like getting deporting all immigrants would increase wages and lower housing costs. Or calling all immigrants criminals. Or even saying that Britain actually belongs to the white people who only graciously let others live there. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-riots-and-unrest-in-the-uk/1005291/40 "2024-08-15T12:11:48Z")
Its ridiculous. We all got here on ‘small boats’, or at least our ancestors did [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-riots-and-unrest-in-the-uk/1005291.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/racist-riots-and-unrest-in-the-uk/1005291.md?page=3)