# Radar reveals two new rooms in Tutankhamun tomb **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 1, 2015, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/radar-reveals-two-new-rooms-in-tutankhamun-tomb/733167 "2015-10-01T18:29:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/radar-reveals-two-new-rooms-in-tutankhamun-tomb/733167/61 "2015-10-02T22:05:53Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > The second link quotes Nicholas Reeves saying the radar test confirms the rooms are there. Not the second link I’m reading. All references to radar are hopes for the future. Ditto the first link in the OP. The “researchers” are basing their guesses on _optical_ scans posted online. This is all BS folks. Nothing to see here, move on. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/radar-reveals-two-new-rooms-in-tutankhamun-tomb/733167/62 "2015-10-02T22:07:52Z")
It’s like that secret room underneath the Sphinx. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/radar-reveals-two-new-rooms-in-tutankhamun-tomb/733167/63 "2015-10-02T22:25:11Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > Not the second link I’m reading. All references to radar are hopes for the future. Ditto the first link in the OP. > > The “researchers” are basing their guesses on _optical_ scans posted online. > > This is all BS folks. Nothing to see here, move on. The article has been edited since yesterday. The quote I copied/pasted is gone. A BBC News article and they don’t indicate it was edited and corrected? Some new development happened yesterday. Google Tutankhamun and filter for the past 24 hours (assuming you’re reading this today Oct 2) there was two pages of links generated in that period of time. The early optical scans were reported way back in August. I linked one of those articles. Permission for the radar test was granted Sept 22 > **[Nefertiti mystery: Egypt approves radar tests on Tutankhamun tomb](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34329751)** > > Egypt gives the go-ahead for the use of radar to test a theory that Queen Nefertiti's crypt may be hidden in King Tutankhamun's tomb, according to an official ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/radar-reveals-two-new-rooms-in-tutankhamun-tomb/733167/64 "2015-10-02T22:33:00Z")
> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#): > > Can we wrap this up? I’m buying a couple bags of concrete. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/radar-reveals-two-new-rooms-in-tutankhamun-tomb/733167/65 "2015-10-03T00:11:15Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I’m buying a couple bags of concrete. :dubious: Tut, Tut, that’s not all that ankhamun! **::Rolling on the floor, in hysterics, easy prey for a murderous bag of concrete::** ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/radar-reveals-two-new-rooms-in-tutankhamun-tomb/733167/66 "2015-10-03T02:24:10Z")
> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#): > > Tut, Tut, that’s not all that ankhamun! > > **::Rolling on the floor, in hysterics, easy prey for a murderous bag of concrete::** I am calling for a concrete truck. Damn the cost! :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/radar-reveals-two-new-rooms-in-tutankhamun-tomb/733167/67 "2015-10-03T03:21:16Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > His version. AKA the Word of God. Hawass has been a bit… controlling in his reign. Once I fell asleep watching a documentary featuring Hawass; I had a nightmare about him and resurrected mummies chasing me around a museum, I’m not sure which ones was creepier though. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/radar-reveals-two-new-rooms-in-tutankhamun-tomb/733167/68 "2015-10-03T08:36:51Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > It is particularly odd given how specific these guys are on what these two “rooms” are: one is the tomb of a particularly famous person and the other is storage. > [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > Maybe there’s a train in there! 😃 > [@Master\_Wang-Ka](#): > > Fulla Nazi gold? Wait a minute, a storage space, for Nazi stuff? Could that maybe be a **warehouse**??? ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/radar-reveals-two-new-rooms-in-tutankhamun-tomb/733167/69 "2015-10-03T09:30:35Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > Going by the OP’s links and what I’ve already seen: > > _No_ rooms have been discovered. This is _speculation_ only. > > It is particularly odd given how specific these guys are on what these two “rooms” are: one is the tomb of a particularly famous person and the other is storage. > > Seems like complete guessing on their part. Not \*complete \*guesses - I haven’t followed this particular story, but archaeologists’ entire business description is figuring out what stuff was based on sharply limited information. In this case, if for example one of the discovered cavities seems generally empty except for a big bit of solid stuff in the middle, or metal detectors ping like crazy ; that would be good indication that it’s the burial chamber of a single important person. If on the other hand the room is packed with solid stuff to the ceiling then that’s a high probability of storage, building materials or possibly a cave-in. Since the discovery of the existence of the rooms was originally based on further information, that too informs what they expect to find and what “tells” they’re looking for in the data. Obviously this whole process is not error-proof, and there’s a lot of conjecture involved until one hits paydirt. That’s why serious historians tend to speak veeery circumspectly. Which is in turn why newshounds quickly stop talking to them, the better to focus on the over-enthusiastic kooks 😃 (Anecdote : my Greek archaeo teacher told us yesterday about a couple of drilled planks of wood from the Bronze Age that had recently been found on the site of Troy. Let’s be clear here : it’s just two mangy bits of wood, with nail holes in 'em. But of course, the buzz around them is : “Is this the horse ? It has to be the horse. C’mon, boffins, tell us you found the horse !”. She said she’d been contacted by a couple papers for possible interviews, told them that so far she had no reason whatsoever to believe those planks were horse-related at all. They did not call her again :p) ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/radar-reveals-two-new-rooms-in-tutankhamun-tomb/733167/70 "2015-10-03T10:00:56Z")
I’m surprised the same technology cannot also detect metals like gold. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/radar-reveals-two-new-rooms-in-tutankhamun-tomb/733167/71 "2015-10-03T15:09:21Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > In this case, if for example one of the discovered cavities seems generally empty except for a big bit of solid stuff in the middle, or metal detectors ping like crazy ; that would be good indication that it’s the burial chamber of a single important person. If on the other hand the room is packed with solid stuff to the ceiling then that’s a high probability of storage, building materials or possibly a cave-in. Where are you getting this from??? Nothing I’ve read indicates any examinations thru walls and no confirmation of existence of any rooms. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/radar-reveals-two-new-rooms-in-tutankhamun-tomb/733167/72 "2015-10-03T16:39:48Z")
It sounds like the announcement last week was just that radar would be used to look for new chambers in the areas that Nick Reeves identified, and then someone jumped the gun and announced that the radar was complete and the rooms located via ground-penetrating radar. Supposedly the radar-ing will happen in the next few months. Reeves (or perhaps the journalists quoting him) are being a little too careless in speculating that the areas are there and that they include the undisturbed remains of Nefertiti’s tomb. That last bit in particular is a real long shot. ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/radar-reveals-two-new-rooms-in-tutankhamun-tomb/733167/73 "2015-10-03T16:49:41Z")
I have it on irrefutable scientific authority that all the old paintings on the tombs, they do the sand dance, don’tcha know. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2015, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/radar-reveals-two-new-rooms-in-tutankhamun-tomb/733167/74 "2015-11-09T19:59:00Z")
Oh man additional testing and there’s more indications there’s a hidden tomb. 😉 Maybe sometime next year there they will find a way to get in there. At least with a remote camera. Theres still much to uncover and study before anybody knows for sure. Exciting development but we don’t have a new mummy yet. [http://news.yahoo.com/egypt-detects-impressive-anomaly-giza-pyramids-154917098.html](http://news.yahoo.com/egypt-detects-impressive-anomaly-giza-pyramids-154917098.html) > [@](#): > > Antiquities Minister Mamdouh el-Damaty and technical experts working on the project showed the thermal differences in the pyramid in a live camera presentation to journalists. > > The scanning showed “a particularly impressive one (anomaly) located on the Eastern side of the Khufu pyramid at ground level,” the ministry said in a statement. The largest of the three Giza pyramids is known locally as Khufu and internationally as Cheops. > > The thermal scanning was carried out during sunrise, as the sun heats the structures from the outside, and then during sunset as the pyramids are cooling down. The speed of the heating and cooling phases was used to uncover “hypotheses” such as empty areas in the pyramids, internal air currents, or different building materials used. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2015, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/radar-reveals-two-new-rooms-in-tutankhamun-tomb/733167/75 "2015-11-09T20:02:07Z")
What if it turns out to be Tuts afterlife man-cave? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2015, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/radar-reveals-two-new-rooms-in-tutankhamun-tomb/733167/76 "2015-11-09T20:04:54Z")
> [@Hypno-Toad](#): > > What if it turns out to be Tuts afterlife man-cave? Then we will have a bunch of hot New Kingdom videos. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2015, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/radar-reveals-two-new-rooms-in-tutankhamun-tomb/733167/77 "2015-11-09T22:04:28Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Oh man additional testing and there’s more indications there’s a hidden tomb. 😉 Maybe sometime next year there they will find a way to get in there. At least with a remote camera. Theres still much to uncover and study before anybody knows for sure. Exciting development but we don’t have a new mummy yet. > [http://news.yahoo.com/egypt-detects-impressive-anomaly-giza-pyramids-154917098.html](http://news.yahoo.com/egypt-detects-impressive-anomaly-giza-pyramids-154917098.html) Just to be clear - this is talking about a different place than Tutankhamun’s tombs. It should maybe have its own thread. This is about thermal imaging in the Great Pyramids at Giza (near Cairo). Tutankhamun’s tomb is in the Valley of the Kings, which is in modern-day Luxor (ancient Thebes). If it was up to me, the whole Giza plateau would be dismantled down to the bedrock and carefully reassembled somewhere else, so we could study it all, starting with the Sphinx. There’s just so much we need to learn, yet. ---
**Author:** ![sparky\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/77aa72/32.png) [@sparky\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sparky_1)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2015, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/radar-reveals-two-new-rooms-in-tutankhamun-tomb/733167/78 "2015-11-09T23:19:49Z")
They’ll just find a grain storage room. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2015, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/radar-reveals-two-new-rooms-in-tutankhamun-tomb/733167/79 "2015-11-09T23:57:11Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > Just to be clear - this is talking about a different place than Tutankhamun’s tombs. It should maybe have its own thread. This is about thermal imaging in the Great Pyramids at Giza (near Cairo). Tutankhamun’s tomb is in the Valley of the Kings, which is in modern-day Luxor (ancient Thebes). > > If it was up to me, the whole Giza plateau would be dismantled down to the bedrock and carefully reassembled somewhere else, so we could study it all, starting with the Sphinx. There’s just so much we need to learn, yet. Apparently they did thermal scanning at both locations. You’re right, the earlier article is referencing a different pyramid. I didn’t realize the researchers had wandered off to another location. 😛 My focus has been on King Tut’s tomb. I guess since the equipment was there and ready to use. Why the hell not? 😃 Get all they can out of the equipment while its there. No since in making two field trips unnecessarily. > **[Possible major secret found inside King Tut's tomb](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/11/08/newser-king-tuts-tomb-temperature/75412966/)** > > It's a theory that might reveal the long-sought burial place of Queen Nefertiti. > [@](#): > > National Geographic reports that infrared scans of the tomb suggest the existence of a hidden chamber. > > “The preliminary analysis indicates the presence of an area different in its temperature than the other parts of the northern wall,” announced Egypt’s antiquities minister. The difference in temperature might mean there’s an open space behind that section of wall, according to Discovery. > > If there is indeed a secret room—further tests are planned to be sure—then it could prove the theory of British archaeologist Nicholas Reeves, who earlier this year claimed the tomb of King Tutankhamun contained two doorways that had been plastered and painted over. ---
**Author:** ![Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maggie_the_Ocelot)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/radar-reveals-two-new-rooms-in-tutankhamun-tomb/733167/80 "2015-11-10T00:10:42Z")
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