# Radios and blasting sites

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [November 25, 2000, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/radios-and-blasting-sites/42621 "2000-11-25T04:47:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2000, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/radios-and-blasting-sites/42621/1 "2000-11-25T04:47:01Z")

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From time to time you see signs near blasting sites saying, “Turn off your radio”. They mean turn off your radio _transmitter_, no? Or, could these warnings actually be referring to _receivers_ too? (If yes to this second question, is it because they may be heterodynes?)

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**Author:** ![Doug\_Bowe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@Doug\_Bowe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doug_Bowe)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2000, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/radios-and-blasting-sites/42621/2 "2000-11-25T05:24:07Z")

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You answered your question. The Armstrong heterodyne design is still in use. Your radio can act as a transmitter.

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**Author:** ![malden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@malden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/malden)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2000, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/radios-and-blasting-sites/42621/3 "2000-11-25T06:58:42Z")

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Are radio signals used to actually detonate the explosive, or are they only used to send verbal signals that all is clear and the explosives can be safely detonated by wire?

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**Author:** ![douglips](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@douglips](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/douglips)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2000, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/radios-and-blasting-sites/42621/4 "2000-11-25T08:13:03Z")

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I think the point is not that your radio will transmit the code to detonate, but that **any** transmission could be picked up by the 5 miles of cable they have stretched out to the blasting site and just enough noise will be introduced that it goes boom.

Note that it is not necessary for you to use a radio receiver to receive radio signals, any chunk of metal or electrical circuit that is not specially shielded can pick up signals, and if the signals are unexpected the results can be unexpected.

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**Author:** ![Ringo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/779978/32.png) [@Ringo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ringo)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2000, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/radios-and-blasting-sites/42621/5 "2000-11-25T08:26:51Z")

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From the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory’s [Environmental Safety & Health Manual](http://www.llnl.gov/es_and_h/)

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> Warning: The use of radio transmitters may cause electroexplosive devices (e.g., squibs or blasting caps that are sensitive to radio-frequency fields) to activate. If this is a possibility, do not use portable _transmitters_ closer than 15 ft (5 m) of such devices (from the Institute of Explosives Pamphlet 20, Radio Frequency Energy).

And from [OSHA Regulations Explosives and blasting agents.](http://www.osha-slc.gov/OshStd_data/1910_0109.html)

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> …1910.109(e)(1)(iv)  
> (e)(1)(vii)  
> Due precautions shall be taken to prevent accidental discharge of electric blasting caps from current induced by radar, radio transmitters, lightning, adjacent powerlines, dust storms, or other sources of extraneous electricity. These precautions shall include:  
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> (e)(1)(vii)(b)  
> The posting of signs warning against the use of mobile radio _transmitters_ on all roads within 350 feet of the blasting operations.

More from [OSHA](http://www.osha-slc.gov/doc/outreachtraining/htmlfiles/blasting.html):

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> Due precautions shall be taken to prevent accidental discharge of electric blasting caps from current induced by radar, radio _transmitters_, lightning, adjacent power lines, dust storms, or other sources of extraneous electricity. These precautions shall include:
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> - Ensuring that mobile radio _transmitters_ which are less than 100 feet away from electric blasting caps, in other than original containers, shall be deenergized and effectively locked;
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> - Compliance with the recommendations of The Institute of the Makers of Explosives with regard to blasting in the vicinity of radio transmitters as stipulated in _Radio Frequency Energy - A Potential Hazard in the Use of Electric Blasting Caps_, IME Publication No. 20, March 1971.

So from what I can tell from the above those who make the rules are concerned with transmitters accidentally causing electrically activated detonating devices to activate. It leads me to think that they don’t normally use radio transmission to set off a blast, just that it can happen. I notice Livermore is happy with 15 feet while OSHA wants 100 and, in the quoted part, requires posting signs out to 350 feet; in another part of the OSHA regs that I didn’t quote, they specify signage out to 1000 feet.

Feel free to correct any mistaken impressions on my part - I knew absolutely nothing about this before I started searching about 30 minutes ago (aren’t you glad we have insomniacs on this board?).