# Raging Atoms

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raging-atoms/596464>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 16, 2011, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raging-atoms/596464 "2011-09-16T02:30:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Vahid\_Tarzan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/3e96dc/32.png) [@Vahid\_Tarzan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vahid_Tarzan)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raging-atoms/596464/81 "2011-09-23T04:39:09Z")

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> [@drewtwo99](#):
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> Vahid Tarzan, I was following along with you all the way with the danger of the fluff, temporal fractures, radiation in Denver, cancer-causing power lines. But your comment about homosexuals is where you lose me. How are we dangerous, and what are we whispering? And what do we have to do with pedophiles?

Homosexuality is strange to our world. It is an extinction level disease.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raging-atoms/596464/82 "2011-09-23T05:19:04Z")

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> [@Vahid\_Tarzan](#):
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> Homosexuality is strange to our world. It is an extinction level disease.

So _ **that’s** _ why you’re terrified of the fluff!

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**Author:** ![Vahid\_Tarzan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/3e96dc/32.png) [@Vahid\_Tarzan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vahid_Tarzan)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raging-atoms/596464/83 "2011-09-23T06:02:16Z")

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We are many individuals acting as one. Subatomic particles are comprised of independent waves. The rank and order of these waves determine the outcome and progress of the body as a whole. A sentient being is comprised of those waves drawn to a more perfect source. In the same manner, a person will seek out a more perfect state, preferably one that require fewer tasks. 😉

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**Author:** ![Vahid\_Tarzan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/3e96dc/32.png) [@Vahid\_Tarzan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vahid_Tarzan)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raging-atoms/596464/84 "2011-09-23T06:05:37Z")

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> [@zoid](#):
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> So _ **that’s** _ why you’re terrified of the fluff!

I’m suspicious of it. I wonder how long it has influenced us or our history. For example, did Jesus Christ know about it? Was he or Moses able to use it?

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raging-atoms/596464/85 "2011-09-23T06:23:43Z")

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> [@Vahid\_Tarzan](#):
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> Homosexuality is strange to our world.

No it’s not. It’s everywhere in our world. It’s common - which is the opposite of strange.

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> It is an extinction level disease.

Not really. Despite being common, it isn’t making us extinct. And you can’t catch teh ghey, so it’s not even a disease.

That you lumped it together with paedophilia betrays your real problem with homosexuality, I think.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raging-atoms/596464/86 "2011-09-23T06:39:44Z")

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> [@Vahid\_Tarzan](#):
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> Homo sexuality is strange to our world. It is an extinction level disease.

Before I post this, I want to you to know that I am a heterosexual male. Very much so, I score that way on the Kinsey scale,; it’s how I live, and I have never even had so much as a homosexual dream.

However…

I’m also a biologist (B.S. Molecular Bio. Auburn U 1997) and looking at homosexuality as a disease shows a lack of understanding about the sexuality of, well, life. Science has observed homosexual behavior in many, many mammals, and quite a few avians (birds). I can show you evidence of gay chimpanzees, dogs, penquins, parrots, and dolphins.

But my point is that is not a disease. It’s an inborn anomaly, but one that usually works to pass on genes, at least among mammals. (I can’t speak to avians, I don’t know enough about birds).

Any way, homosexual genes may be passed on due to the “uncle effect”. Homosexual animals don’t produce children, and since their children don’t exist they don’t need to be fed; but those adults do hunt and gather and bring that food back to the children of their relatives. In effect, the children have three adults providing food for them and thus have an advantage over those who only have two. Three is better that two, and since the the gay sibling shares a great many genes with one of the parents (because he or she is a sibling), those genes pass on.

But that’s just one of the hypotheseis (plural sp?) behind it. Nobody using the scientific method thinks it’s an infectious disease. Washing your hands is not going to prevent you from being gay. The sexual anomaly is hardwired into mamalians (and avians, I think) because there actually is an evolutionary benefit to having a small segment of the population not breed.

I hope that makes sense, I’m a little drunk.

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**Author:** ![Vahid\_Tarzan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/3e96dc/32.png) [@Vahid\_Tarzan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vahid_Tarzan)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raging-atoms/596464/87 "2011-09-23T07:13:28Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> Before I post this, I want to you to know that I am a heterosexual male. Very much so, I score that way on the Kinsey scale,; it’s how I live, and I have never even had so much as a homosexual dream.
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> However…
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> I’m also a biologist (B.S. Molecular Bio. Auburn U 1997) and looking at homosexuality as a disease shows a lack of understanding about the sexuality of, well, life. Science has observed homosexual behavior in many, many mammals, and quite a few avians (birds). I can show you evidence of gay chimpanzees, dogs, penquins, parrots, and dolphins.
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> But my point is that is not a disease. It’s an inborn anomaly, but one that usually works to pass on genes, at least among mammals. (I can’t speak to avians, I don’t know enough about birds).
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> Any way, homosexual genes may be passed on due to the “uncle effect”. Homosexual animals don’t produce children, and since their children don’t exist they don’t need to be fed; but those adults do hunt and gather and bring that food back to the children of their relatives. In effect, the children have three adults providing food for them and thus have an advantage over those who only have two. Three is better that two, and since the the gay sibling shares a great many genes with one of the parents (because he or she is a sibling), those genes pass on.
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> But that’s just one of the hypotheseis (plural sp?) behind it. Nobody using the scientific method thinks it’s an infectious disease. Washing your hands is not going to prevent you from being gay. The sexual anomaly is hardwired into mamalians (and avians, I think) because there actually is an evolutionary benefit to having a small segment of the population not breed.
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> I hope that makes sense, I’m a little drunk.

I’m familiar with their occurrence in nature, both pedophilia and homosexuality. My animals male and female hump at each other all the time, but it is mock sex showing dominance or submission. Pedophilia seems to occur in tribal communities with rogue males, but it is not sex, just a way of comfort. Humans carry it to the full act of penetration, which is illogical as it produces nothing. Genetically, the behavior or impulse can be passed on from one generation to the next, however, we’re talking human being, right? Some owl will copulate/ penetrate another predator they’ve killed in their territory as an expression of dominance. Wherefore by your remarks you’ve suggesting necrophilia is alright.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raging-atoms/596464/88 "2011-09-23T10:43:40Z")

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> [@Vahid\_Tarzan](#):
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> We are many individuals acting as one.

No we aren’t.

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> Subatomic particles are comprised of independent waves.

No they aren’t.

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> The rank and order of these waves determine the outcome and progress of the body as a whole.

No they don’t.

> [@](#):
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> A sentient being is comprised of those waves drawn to a more perfect source.

No it isn’t.

> [@](#):
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> In the same manner, a person will seek out a more perfect state, preferably one that require fewer tasks. 😉

No they won’t.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raging-atoms/596464/89 "2011-09-23T11:18:37Z")

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Nailing Jelly to a tree folks.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raging-atoms/596464/90 "2011-09-23T13:42:20Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> Nailing Jelly to a tree folks.

Yep. Screw it.

Don’t screw a dead owl, though. You can catch a disease from that. Remember: You’re not just screwing one dead owl, you are screwing everyone that has screwed that dead owl before.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raging-atoms/596464/91 "2011-09-23T15:59:00Z")

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And if you’re necro-raped by an owl… well I don’t have any advice. Maybe make sure your fluff isn’t raging, or something.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raging-atoms/596464/92 "2011-09-23T16:16:55Z")

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Eddies in the space-time wash…

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raging-atoms/596464/93 "2011-09-23T16:17:28Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> And if you’re necro-raped by an owl… well I don’t have any advice.

You can always tell. Kinda a vacant expression, walking around asking, “Whooo?”

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raging-atoms/596464/94 "2011-09-23T16:19:18Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> Nailing Jelly to a tree folks.

I’m afraid you’re right.  
Perhaps we should secure our foodstuffs more carefully lest they become scavenged by the local storybook fauna.

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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raging-atoms/596464/95 "2011-09-23T16:39:12Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> Eddies in the space-time wash…

And this is his sofa, is it?

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raging-atoms/596464/96 "2011-09-23T16:47:00Z")

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**FLUFF _Enraged!_**

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raging-atoms/596464/97 "2011-09-23T19:55:44Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> You can always tell. Kinda a vacant expression, walking around asking, “Whooo?”

The owls around here all say “Whom?” - we live in an upmarket area.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raging-atoms/596464/98 "2011-09-23T23:08:46Z")

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Our owls shoot us, then take our wallets.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raging-atoms/596464/99 "2011-09-23T23:53:44Z")

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The kangaroos punch us in the face, then take our wallabies.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raging-atoms/596464/100 "2011-09-24T01:06:51Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> The kangaroos punch us in the face, then take our wallabies.

How roo’d!

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