# raindog: are you fucking kidding me? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 11, 2009, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raindog-are-you-fucking-kidding-me/517151 "2009-11-11T05:05:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 6
**Author:** ![Algorithm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/algorithm/32/12204_2.png) [@Algorithm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algorithm)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raindog-are-you-fucking-kidding-me/517151/6 "2009-11-11T06:47:52Z")
Just to really drive the point home how obnoxious this behavior is - I hate excessive quoting, but it’s necessary here - the assertion is made over and over, but never backed up: > [@What motivates people to vote other people's rights away](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-motivates-people-to-vote-other-peoples-rights-away/516261/511): > > While some objections to homosexuals may be a product of “homophobia”, this is far from universally true > [@What motivates people to vote other people's rights away](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-motivates-people-to-vote-other-peoples-rights-away/516261/536): > > There are well-reasoned arguments on both sides of this issue. For those who are against SSM there are reasons----for many to be sure----that aren’t borne of an _“unreasoning fear of or antipathy toward homosexuals and homosexuality.”_ > [@What motivates people to vote other people's rights away](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-motivates-people-to-vote-other-peoples-rights-away/516261/541): > > But that doesn’t reduce those who feel otherwise as “homophobes”. (although clearly some are) > [@What motivates people to vote other people's rights away](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-motivates-people-to-vote-other-peoples-rights-away/516261/544): > > There is _reasoned_, _rational_ arguments on both sides of this. > > The fact that you can’t see them (which does not mean you have to agree with them) ------and need to demonize your opponents with labels like “homophobe”-----says more about your blindness than the quality of their argument. > [@What motivates people to vote other people's rights away](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-motivates-people-to-vote-other-peoples-rights-away/516261/552): > > Assuming you’re an adult I have to wonder where you have been. In any event, I have no intention of being drawn into the anti-SSM debate. > > I do know, however, that there are reasonable, thoughtful, intelligent people on both sides of this—and both have reasonable arguments. > [@What motivates people to vote other people's rights away](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-motivates-people-to-vote-other-peoples-rights-away/516261/583): > > Of course, it would be equally easy to point to an opponent of SSM who demonstrated none of the stereotypes associated with homophobes. > > And the zealots in both camps ignore the evidence and insist that the stereotype is the standard. > [@What motivates people to vote other people's rights away](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-motivates-people-to-vote-other-peoples-rights-away/516261/595): > > In his view, the case against SSM is much less compelling than the case for it. I’ll let **Bricker** speak for himself, but I would assume that his prior opposition to SSM wasn’t due to fear and hatred of homosexuals. “Reasoned, rational” arguments, not borne of homophobia, against SSM - where are they? Not a single one is linked by **raindog** in the thread. > [@What motivates people to vote other people's rights away](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-motivates-people-to-vote-other-peoples-rights-away/516261/619): > > If you’re looking for thoughtful, reasoned arguments in opposition to SSM you won’t find them here. Ah. Thanks for clearing that up, **raindog**. You are useless. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raindog-are-you-fucking-kidding-me/517151)._